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Beat me to it. No employer needs things like your SIN/SSN until they have to file some paperwork with the government. Which means you've actually accepted an offer.
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That was what I thought, but needed confirmation before taking action. Thanks for that.
Reported the incident, and requested further explanation from the company involved.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Greg Utas wrote: at least until they offer you a job.
and not even then... they need those things once they hire you. A.k.a. contract signed by both parts.
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I answered that way because they might want to vet you before officially hiring you. Whether this is necessary would depend on local laws about cancelling an accepted job offer if they found problems when vetting you.
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But even that would imply they give you another paperwork first like the declaration of job intention (or whatever the official english name is), so that you can start the visa process.
But the rest... not in my experience, at least not before hiring you.
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They didn't Google me, what kind of vetting is that? No request for a resume either, so not checking my references either.
And they a recruiter, so no hiring nor a contract until there's a client.
Seems a legit company though; but not sure untill the chamber of commerce replies 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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They're a recruiter and didn't even ask for a resume?! 
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Just wants my SSN and passport/ID. There's a national unemployed database that would already give some basic details where they got the fact me looking for work.
The resume isn't asked for. Nor references. And there was "no time" to Google me. So no five minutes left in their schedule.
I wanted to ask if something wrong or me imagining; your reaction leaves little space for doubt
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I had a similar situation with a recruiter some years ago. The recruiter phoned me on Monday saying the client wanted an interview before the end of the week. She then asked me to fill in a form which was just a copy of my resume; I replied by they already had my full resume so they could use that. She started to make excuses about the interview, including that suddenly the manager was on holiday. Whether the job actually existed I never discovered, but I did write her a very snotty letter accusing her of blatantly lying to me. Strangely I never heard from them again.
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For a moment, I simply assumed the EU had come up with some stupid new regulations, but all the answers here are roughly pointing in the same direction.
Thanks for your time 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: I simply assumed the EU had come up with some stupid new regulations
No, I don't think that is very likely. 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: they need a "unic" identification for the "data base"
[Id] [int] IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL, Or, if they're looking for a more functional kind of unique key, how about
[EmailAddress] [nvarchar](1024) NULL, Whether they're legit or not, I wouldn't want to do business with them in any case...
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A guid, with an unique-index on name and telephone; maybe including postal code and/or birthdate. Let the systen give a warning, but allow for duplicates.
Sander Rossel wrote: Whether they're legit or not, I wouldn't want to do business with them in any case...
Found me through werk.nl, and presents as a Dutch company. And hate to say no to potential work.
..and it was you at that bloody concert. We met, and never spoke.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: And hate to say no to potential work.
Isn't there LOTS of potential work in IT?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: ..and it was you at that bloody concert. We met, and never spoke.
What? I haven't been to concerts in a loooong time 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Isn't there LOTS of potential work in IT?
Yes, in IT is. But living in the southern Netherlands, no car nor drivers license. That kinda limits the options a bit.
Sander Rossel wrote: What? I haven't been to concerts in a loooong time
Probably even longer than that. But yes, hoping that this is the last year of the lockdowns.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Even if it wasn't a scam, do you really want to work with people who run their business that way?
Real programmers use butterflies
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They don't wanna run with me; I was my "friendly" self and they decided not to follow up after questions about the SSN and passport. These be harsh times for all, so I not too picky and not making demands about the paycheck.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I hear that. TBH I guess I've been lucky. I've been pretty insulated from economic crunches at least while working in tech. It could just be a matter of the right place and right time, plus the fact that I prefer to contract so I've always been in the "gig economy" in a manner of speaking.
For me though, whether it's tech or something else, what's paramount to me is not even the pay, or the type of work, but whether or not I can be successful at what I am doing, and that depends a lot on the people I work with, work for, or oversee, and the company's environment and culture have everything to do with it. So for me, I pay attention to any red flags that come up that tell me a place might be mismanaged, sketchy, or otherwise probably be something that will set me up for failure, and I run the other way. I'd rather miss a check than bomb out at work, whether it's my fault or not. While it doesn't seem directly related, asking for that information when they don't need it is a huge red flag to me.
YMMV, but that's me.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Sounds like good advice, thanks
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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One thing about contracting for decades is I've had occasion to see just about every type of work environment there is, and it has helped hone my survival instincts.
Good luck to you!
Real programmers use butterflies
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If the company is coming from an european land, then they should not even ask for the passport, as the standard ID should be more than enough for everything within member lands. I made my first passport when I was already working in my second company in germany, because I had to travel outside europe.
Second for all the firms I have workd (3 different lands) they have needed my health insurance number for the official paperwork, but not just asking me to give them the number, they needed a special document from my insurance, and that after having my signed copy of the contract back at their places.
Without a contract already signed by them giving you the last word on the creation of the laboral relationship they have no right to ask you for such data.
That could be easily used to impersonate you in some government burocracy or be used as identity theft to do harm and let you run with the consequences.
M.D.V. 
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Nelek wrote: That could be easily used to impersonate you in some government burocracy or be used as identity theft to do harm and let you run with the consequences.
That's what my coworker said. I need to buy them a meal for their sage advice
Nelek wrote: my second company in germany, because I had to travel outside europe.
Germany is in Europe?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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It smells like an identity theft scam to me. Have you checked the email headers, looked up IP addresses etc? There's a lot of traceable stuff in there that many scammers aren't smart enough to conceal.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Scammers usually don't build a complete website; so, may just be an actual company with a weird policy.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Scammers usually don't build a complete website;
I would not bet that hard.
They are clean in VirusTotal so you can visit, but...
SCAM ALERT: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING IN THE FOLLOWING LINK, YOU WILL ONLY LOSE YOUR MONEY
https://rapido-electronico.com/[^]
Full web with almost everything what a legit shop would have. And still a scam.
M.D.V.
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