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I'm old school. When I started programming 8k of ram was considered to be a lot, and disk space was no more than 320k. However, the foot print isn't the worst part of EF, it just happens to be the thing I thought of first.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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thanks 4 4 
modified 28-May-22 14:58pm.
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#realJSOP wrote: my identity assembly is less than 0k
Wow! Either you've invented negative code, or your assembly is so big it's overflowed the Windows "file size" counter.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I'm that good...  (I fixed it.)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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to be honest - wtf? Is this just web elephanting dookie?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I honestly don’t understand your question.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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" entity framework from my MVC5 (.Net Framework) app, but keep the user management functionality so I can have single-user authentication, and use my own DAL/connection string manager code"
The buzzwords tossed around completely lost me. So, when I saw your response, I decided to google to help me better understand what you are doing. 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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The template-generated code for a MVC5 project requires entity framework for the identity stuff (registration/login).
Entity Framework doesn't play well with stored procs. It's possible to do (from what I hear), but it's a relative pain in the ass.
When Entity Framework decides your database has changed, its "migration" policies can actually cause you to lose data. As far as I know, you can't completely turn off the migration features in EF (honsetly, if that has changed, I'm still not interested).
I have a well-vetted DAL (that easily supports stored procs, and query text) and a much more versatile connection string manager that I like to use, not to mention an app I use to generate models from the database, so I don't need the crap that EF does.
I think MS should have made the MVC5 project template configurable as far as whether to use an ORM (and which ORM), or a homegrown DAL class such as the one I'm using.
I'm old and set in my ways, and don't need Microsoft to help me access my database by forcing me to use Entity Framework.
BTW, I have in fact confirmed that I've completely eradicated Entity Framework from my project.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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"I'm old and set in my ways, and don't need Microsoft to help me access my database by forcing me to use Entity Framework."
If I ever migrate back to web development, it will be a cold day in hell (or someone is going to have to make it worth my while). I've read the various posts over the years of the buzzword lingo of various tool sets and what not. From an engineering point of view, depending on MS to support anything until the next "new shiny" comes along is a recipe for grief. And your comments are interesting - rather than have some EF or other tool generate a framework, come up with something stable and stick with it.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: And your comments are interesting - rather than have some EF or other tool generate a framework, come up with something stable and stick with it.
My DAL code is going on 10 years old now... I tweak it every now and then, but it's served me well.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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He's still putting his cabinet together.
I know where my coat is, I'll go peacably
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
JaxCoder.com
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Nobody but you gives a crap that this is a repost.
But you should just keep reposting this same response to show how much you don’t like reposts.
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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I care a great deal about this particular one! 
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good one
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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For some jokes, the less you know, the more you enjoy it.
This idea of electing a king ... I guess that some people when asked "What is the difference between electing a president and electing a king?" would answer something like "It is about the same, isn't it - just a different name?"
So those of us who do know the difference, can have a good laugh at how ignorant some people are.
(The funny thing is that if you make a joke based on the opposite misunderstanding, e.g. talking about the heir to the presidency of the union, referring to biological heirness, it might very well be a deliberate political statement and no real misunderstanding. At least under some presidents.)
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You don't vote for kings!
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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An older man went into a gym to improve his physical condition.
He asked the trainer: I want to impress that beautiful girl over there.
Which machine should I use?
Trainer: The ATM outside.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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You used that one here The Lounge[^]
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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No it isn't, I was being a smarta***, it's linked to the same post.
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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Man arrives at emergency room with serious leg injury.
Doctor: It is very serious. I will have to operate. You might lose the leg.
After operation, the man wakes up.
When he sees the doctor, he asks. "How am I doing?"
Doctor: I have good news and bad news.
Man: What is the bad news?
Doctor: We cut off the wrong leg.
Man: oh no, oh no, no, no. that is terrible.
After much distress, the man asks: "what is the good news?"
Doctor: The other leg is getting better.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I had forgotten I had used that joke before. Sorry getting old. Still a funny joke.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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