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Yeah there are a ton of them on the market, and cheap. The only reason I bought the one I did is because it was a lab supply and knew it would be reliable.
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agree
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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And also when did it start appearing on Visual Studio.
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It's the "Visual Studio Debug Console", and it's been there since the first release of VS (as "Visual Studio" - it was a part of it's predecessors, right the way back to "Visual C++" V 1.0, "Quick C For Windows", or even existed in a form in Quick C for DOS.
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I saw the recent ChatGPT answers that were recently posted here on codeproject.com and were subsequently deleted. I don't disagree with the judgement call.
Some of the answers were really good. At least one of the answers was 'more correct' than two other answers veteran members gave. I checked, I double checked.
What surprises me the most is the infancy of this technology. I'm not sure if I will be able to determine real people from computers here in the near future. Kinda worrisome.
In fact, the only reason they got caught is they answered like 20-30 questions on a wide range of topics in just an hour. If they would have submitted 1 answer per day along with chat/banter here in the Lounge they may have gone undetected.
I'm not even sure if it was ChatGPT, it was different. When I looked at how it was answering more correctly than our members, I think it was comprehending the question better than our members.
It was very verbose, gave a very accurate description of C/C++ semantics. I felt like I wanted to see more.
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Some of it's text was very good indeed. But the code? It didn't compile, let alone work! It clearly had no idea of the rules of the software language it was "writing for", let alone how to code even in psuedocode.
And that's a very big part of development. I wasn't impressed with any of the code it produced.
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The C++ code compiled (all the c++ answers at least), I didn't try the other languages. It's imperfect, but I'm not pointing out it's correctness, but my inability to determine if it's human.
It's something to be concerned about. It would have 100% fooled me if they didn't answer 30 questions in such a short period of time.
New technology, I am witnessing the birth of something that will change the world. I'm an expert in my field, it was difficult to see it was a computer. None of the C/C++ answers were wrong.
Didn't even look like pure ChatGPT. I suspected an AI researcher was testing the waters.
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Randor wrote: Didn't even look like pure ChatGPT. I suspected an AI researcher was testing the waters.
If that is true, I would expect an ethical researcher to get permission from the subjects. Subject to Chris' cooperation, I'm sure that if we (collective 'we') were asked to participate in such an experiment, many of us would be willing to do so.
Designing a test that would work even with informed subjects isn't even very difficult; Alan Turing did so over 60 years ago.
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Yeah,
In case you haven't understood the Turing test the whole point is to trick humans.
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ChatGPT (assuming it was ChatGPT) apparently excels at collection and summarization of ideas from various sources. It may even be better at that than some of CP's experienced members.
I have no technical issue with ChatGPT and its descendants taking over functions like QA. There may be a legal issue with whether collation and summarization of a subject constitute plagiarism, but - assuming ChatGPT avoids direct quotes - how does that differ from what a human expert does when he/she answers a question? Is silicon-based processing qualitatively different from carbon-based processing?
The above does not mean that ChatGPT would make a good developer / design engineer / architect. Leaving aside the issue of grammar and code correctness (i.e. does it even compile, let alone function as expected?), a good developer / design engineer / architect must be able to see how the various components of a system interact, and what would happen if those interactions were changed. He/she must also be capable of designing components that match a given set of criteria. These are rare enough abilities among humans, and I have yet to see any signs of their development in AI.
In fact, ChatGPT appears at present to be the epitome of the ivory-tower consultant - the one that has all the answers, but has never built a system in the real world. As long as this remains the case, I doubt that human developers have much to be worried about.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I read it three times.
I would add "anytime soon", it's a complexity issue.
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Randor wrote: I read it three times.
In best seasonal tradition - you made a list, you checked it twice? 
Randor wrote: I would add "anytime soon", it's a complexity issue.
Agreed. The argument re silicon vs carbon processing cuts both ways.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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There are videos on YouTube which show how to make videos, on any topic, using just ChatGPT and a video editor. Without using a camera, without using a microphone.
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does the doctor give him a taste of his own medicine?
*hides*
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Does a sick brewer get something for what ales him?
(runs, ducks, rolls, and hides)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I'm very sorry and I'm aware it is very of topic... I don't know how to reach you otherwhise 
Can you do me a favor and have a look to: C++20 template specialization[^] in case you have time.
Thank you so much  And again sorry to disturb.
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