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Oh my nightmares just came back....
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Greg Utas wrote: "five nines" and later "six nines", which translates to 5 minutes or 30 seconds of downtime per year.
Amazing!!! and definitely drives a Dev to do as much Engineering as possible --- so you're note awakened in the middle of the night. I know about it. 
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Somewhat related: I have several times had to explain to youngsters why dotNet JIT code generation from MSIL is not a problem. Of course part of the issue is that lexical analysis etc. has been done earlier in the process, but the one, single factor is that the JIT compiler does not have to do error checking. It assumes error free input, and saves lots of time on that, compared to a complete from-source-code compiler that can not take error free input for given.
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In my early days of programming I had the mindset that keeping the program running at all cost results in making the source code hard to read and maintain because of the all the extra safety checks. Then I’ve learned about all the safety features and warnings in a plane’s cockpit. I come to realize that getting notifications while still keeping things under control has a point
modified 22-Dec-22 14:58pm.
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Since we receive so many files per day (and at times it's X per second -- & I know other apps stress things much further) my system has pushed network, file storage h/w & the windows file system to their limits (since other apps are running our medium-sized company's file system also).
Anyway, my point here is that there are times we are receiving files but the network cannot access the SSD or network node where the SSD is or whatever so I would get low-level errors back in my system when I'm just trying to save a file. Meanwhile, Infrastructure h/w & OS types are like, "You shouldn't ever get write errors. It's just not possible."
So I had to make sure my app doesn't crash and somehow handles the situation without losing everything.
It's a challenge & those kinds of errors almost always occur at 3am-4am local time. 
I really don't want to wake up (or wake anyone else up) in the middle of the night.
My final point: People who may be wakened in the middle of the night are the closest to being/becoming engineers. Cuz it's on them.
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Curious - how are these files arriving? ftp? email? etc...
rad,
Check with your employer but I would love to see an article on the engineering description of your system. I consulted with a firm for a few years that processed motor vehicle records for insurance companies. The amount of data and file processing was incredible.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Most (80%) files are transferred via AS2[^] (a relatively unknown protocol for transferring EDI) over HTTPS including a separate Sec. Cert to encrypt & sign the data.
20% are done via FTP (sFTP).
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I agree. I didn't do flight software, but I composed quite a lot of software (mostly for engineering and business applications). I try to handle every error condition possible with a message that an error occurred, what the error was and what created it, if possible. That follows with a recommendation of how to correct, avoid, and/or what one should document for later review. This is just a summary as it can get more complicated if a real-time system where software activity has to correct and control without user intervention. BTW all this back and forth on software engineering is very good info. In my grad school days, software engineering was it's formative stages. I was luck to be a part of that and used what I learned with success. Just a simple thing as naming convention considerations in the early stages made a big difference. It forced one to think of the architecture as a whole.
Do it wrong and woe to you and others.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Quote: The other engineering principle that is embodied in Hamilton’s early work is the idea of “failing safely.”
As I have said before:
Fail safe systems fail by failing to fail safely.
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Margaret is legend. If you are serious about engineering software, read everything and I mean EVERYTHING she's written. She took her job a hell of a lot more seriously than most of us software weenies do - no offense. She knew three people were going to be on top of some serious energy, go to the moon and hopefully come back without going splat.
dammit rad, I'm ordering the book now.
On a side note, if anyone has good references on the material behind "Hidden Figures", please post.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: Margaret is legend.
I agree. She is an amazing person. 
Every time I read an article or excerpt about her work I am always inspired.
And you won't regret getting this book so far (chapter 2) it is fantastic read.
So much great stuff in there.
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Nice. We built a new internal service this year, for inbound files of the same magnitude.
Because it's very important data, I designed the system to automatically recover from a broad set of unknown failures, with redundancy in place that gives us a 2 month leeway to get the automated system back on track.
Extra attention was made so we could re-create scenario's on a disconnected environment easily, and audit both production and simulation process with very basic tools.
So far we've had 7 failures, with a critical versioning failure last week.
No impact at all because of our redundancy.
When dealing with large volumes or critical data, you really need a sensible and simple failsafe.
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I found that (user) logging reduces a lot of "errors".
Another term is graceful degradation. But that requires understanding when a try-catch block should continue or not. And, yes, it may require asking the user if it should proceed (e.g. a file not available).
It then comes down to transparency (of the software) ... what Boeing failed to do with their software changes: tell the user what they did and how it might impact them.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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The Boeing thing shows that big Engineering can be really hard, and that in many cases, software is just another unreliable component, somewhat miss-designed and under appreciated (in its failure modes!).
The world is eating software, with the usual outcomes.
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Very good points and exactly right on the Boeing problem. Could’ve been solved properly. Such a sad and terrible thing.
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It's just shocking to me how many "professional" developers don't embrace defensive programming.
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I believe it is because they don’t “have to” since they are not the ones who will be wakened in the middle of the night. You learn a lot from losing sleep. 
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One of the hardest, or at least most memorable, software problem I ever had to chase was a programming error in a seldomly used error recovery routine. It seems my programmer, who was highly experienced in other programming languages such as COBOL, coded a "=" instead of an "==" inside an if statement in a C program--kinda like "if ( A = B)....". This ALWAYS returns true WHILE assigning the value of B to A.
Unfortunately, this little error caused the system to crash.
It took about six months to find the cause of the crash and understand what was happening. Looking at the code under the pressure of a "down system", we always asked why the condition was true because our mind was saying if A equals B and not considering that A was not equal to B before the if statement.
I cursed (and still do curse to this day) whoever decided that allowing an assignment inside of a conditional statement was a good idea.
And I have to wonder how many systems, like autonomous cars, have a statement like that buried way down deep in a infrequently used piece of critical code.
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That is a fantastic story, thanks for sharing.
I’ve seen that error (in my own code) and fortunately caught it before it went into production. You would def think the compiler would catch that.
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More from this fantastic book, Modern Software Engineering[^]
Quote: In his excellent talk called “Real Software Engineering,”3 Glenn Vanderburg says that in other disciplines “Engineering means stuff that works” and that almost the opposite has become true for software.
Vanderburg goes on to explore why this is the case. He describes an academic approach to software engineering that was so onerous that almost no one who had practiced it would recommend it for future projects.
It was heavyweight and added no significant value to the process of software development at all. In a telling phrase, Vanderburg says:
[Academic software engineering] only worked because sharp people, who cared, were willing to circumvent the process.
That is not engineering by any sensible definition.
Vanderburg’s description of “engineering as the stuff that works” is important. If the practices that we choose to identify as “engineering” don’t allow us to make better software faster, then they don’t qualify as engineering!
Software development, unlike all physical production processes, is wholly an exercise in discovery, learning, and design. Our problem is one of exploration, and so we, even more than the spaceship designers, should be applying the techniques of exploration rather than the techniques of production engineering.
Many of us have been bashed over the head with “software engineering” only to discover over time it was nothing related to any kind of engineering.
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Indeed. Very little software is engineered these days.
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I agree. If we built dams or sewer systems like we do software, we're all getting wet.
Engineering is a hard science. Software "Engineering" has yet to be defined.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I agree that using "engineering" in the context of software development is misleading. Engineering is far more formalized than software design, partly because it has a longer history, partly because things like physics and chemistry apply, partly because there are fewer bespoke solutions, and partly because an engineered product isn't expected to be enhanced with an endless stream of new "releases". The sentence about "Software development...is wholly an exercise in discovery, learning, and design" is bang on and has been stated as "Let the code speak to you".
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Greg Utas wrote: an engineered product isn't expected to be enhanced with an endless stream of new "releases".
Apple Corporation might disagree...
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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What product are you talking about?
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