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Once I accepted a counter-offer. How it worked out depends on your POV.
My problem was management -- company hired a middle manager who sucked up to anyone she thought would benefit her and was abusive to anyone below her in the hierarchy. Client loved her so management accepted it (until a year later when her actions were precipitating a lawsuit).
I accepted the counter-offer but resigned 6 months later (going to a 3rd company), as nothing had been fixed, only painted a different color. From that POV, it was a waste of time.
OTOH, my employer bumped me 10% in the counter-offer and 6 months later my new employer bumped me another 15% ... so from that POV? I'd love to do it every year!
Oddly enough, a co-worker went to my first choice. Within a month he complained to me about management problems, benefits changing weekly, etc. That company was defunct 3 years later. In the long term, things worked out well for me, but I can't claim it was part of my grand plan for world domination. The Force was with me during that time.
I see 2 options:
1) Take the money and see if anything changes. Give it 6 months and the re-evaluate.
2) If you are resigning, chances are the reasons won't change. If you think the new company is a really good offer (not just money but management, environment, etc), jump ship. If the offer is not that great, see #1.
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If you have resigned and not talked to your employer before hand, then you need to think about why you are leaving. If it's for the money then you'll achieve your goal and save everyone a big hassle by leaving.
If you talked to them, asked for a raise, they said no, then you quit and then they offer a raise then leave. That's not cool. They can either afford to lose you or they can't. They shouldn't play games (to be fair circumstances can change, but there'd have to be a good story)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Earlier today, I saw a bumper sticker that said "I'm a veterinarian therefore I can drive like an animal".
Suddenly I realized how many proctologists are on the roads...
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There are tons of them out there! Anyone who drives faster than me is a maniac, and anyone who drives slower needs to get the pickle out! 
But one thing I gradually noticed is that anyone who has stuff hanging from the rear-view mirror--rosary beads, dreamcatchers, fuzzy dice, little scented cardboard pine trees--drives like an idiot. The correlation is shockingly high.
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Quite a few gynecologists, as well.
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And psychiatrists.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Mike Hankey wrote: "I'm a veterinarian therefore I can drive like an animal".
I'm probably being too literal (as always) because I find that analogy to be a big fail. What animals "drive"? You might be able to train an unusually gifted monkey, but even then the results would probably be even more disappointing than what you get with self-driving cars.
But then, the punchline made it worth overlooking.
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Well, our transition to the cloud has resulted in diminished access.
Before we moved to the cloud, we could still connect to our outward facing database servers via ssms using basically read-only accounts. we could inspect tables/views and even look at stored procs, but we didn't have execute permissions.
On our cloud servers, that read-only account has been removed, which everyone thought was fine. Until today.
A problem came up, and when the customer asked us about it, we had to tell him that he had to talk to the DBAs because the devs could no longer inspect those databases...
The word "shitstorm" is being bandied about as a description of what's been happening since i sent that email. In that email, I also happened to mention that I warned this would happen, and was told by the PM that "we'd cross that bridge when we came to it".
Here we are, and the bridge is nowhere to be seen, and I am NOT stepping in that fast-moving stream of sewage that I see flowing by.
"Shitstorm" indeed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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You missed your calling - Director of Public Relations.
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I don't just ping people - when I'm done, they ring like a freakin bell... 
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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ok, I freaking LOVE this!
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Director of Public Retaliations
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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I'll be printing this and place it up my office door.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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#realJSOP wrote: A problem came up, and when the customer asked us about it, we had to tell him that he had to talk to the DBAs because the devs could no longer inspect those databases...
The word "shitstorm" is being bandied about as a description of what's been happening since i sent that email. In that email, I also happened to mention that I warned this would happen, and was told by the PM that "we'd cross that bridge when we came to it".
 
I suppose the PM is going to love you from now on 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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#realJSOP wrote: ...I also happened to mention that I warned this would happen...
Nelek wrote: I suppose the PM is going to love you from now on
Yes, I've also found that people love, love, love it when you give them an "I told you so!"
Most of the time they stop talking to me when I do it and I take that as a compliment and a reward.
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But more of a reward that anything else, right?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I wouldn't like to be the PM - especially with you working there !!!
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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On the other hand, if you were halfway competent, you would love having JSOP on your team!
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This.
I had a coworker who was my team leader in a project that had a very strong character. Until I gained his trust (I was the newly inserted member) it's been tough, but once I did he always had my back and the back of our teams. Most of all, if he ever took a decision because the managers or the customers wouldn't, he'd own it.
Once I was being chewed off by the customer for having implemented a certain functionality before another, my team leader entered the room, placed between us and said "I told him that priorities, got a problem with that?". Not a peep more from the customer for the remaining months.
Best team I ever worked in.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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The problem is... they are so rare 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Absolutely but I bet he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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pkfox wrote: I wouldn't like to be the PM - especially with you working there !!!
pkfox wrote: Absolutely but I bet he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
what a disappointment... I didn't have you for a fool, but if you tell it so...  
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Steady 😊
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Any PM who kicks the can down the road deserves to be kicked in the can - talk about gathering technical debt!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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No company is perfect (especially government) and people make mistakes.
You just threw your PM under a bus and complained about him TO A CUSTOMER!
In my book that's an absolute no go.
If you have problems, run it by your manager, if they don't listen and you're dissatisfied, leave.
You're now just actively sabotaging the company from within.
We have very strict employee laws in the Netherlands and in some cases it can be almost impossible to get one fired.
I think this is one of the reasons for direct dismissal though.
An absolute dick move, no matter how much you disagree with the policy 
[Edit]
JSOP's customer was internal and everyone knew about the situation, making my reply not applicable in this case.
Consider JSOP's reputation cleared, at least from this incident
[/Edit]
modified 10-Mar-21 5:27am.
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