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Looking at my tiny TFS Express VM, which is quietly using 1.5 out of the 32GB of RAM on the multi-purpose VM host I put together for under $1000...
Looking at the external backup drive sitting next to it, which was last updated on Sunday (only because my source hasn't changed this week). Currently physically disconnected.
My offsite backup drive is a one-hour drive away.
No cloud here.
I like to think I'm doing ok.
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It is a good thing you have back-ups.
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Put your claws away Ennis!
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You mean the company you pay for this repository don't do backups?
Change. Now. And demand your money back as well...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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They did. But those got deleted too
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Yeah right - the "offsite backups" got trashed.
I don't know about you, but my offsite backups aren't connected to my main system once they have been written: they are the backups-of-last-resort and you can;t keep those in a vulnerable location.
What they mean is: "we don't do backups".
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Absolutely! One important part of my job is to setup backup plans for my clients.
If I had done things like they did, I would be fired now.
Typically, any one of my clients could undergo a fire, I would still be able to setup a new platform in a few hours.
This story is just such a shame.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who separate humankind in two distinct categories, and those who don't.
"I have two hobbies: breasts." DSK
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That's one of my problems with the cloud: you have no idea who is doing the actual storage, and what exactly they are doing. Do they backup? Or save money by hope-and-pray? What kind of people do they employ - apart from "the cheapest possible"? They will have total access to my data - so what are they going to do with it?
You may have guessed, I don't keep anything serious out there!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Virtual Machines have greatly simplified backup tasks, I must confess.
Nowadays a reverse-incremental backup of a big server can take ten minutes when it needed hours before; and restorations of a full server are really trivial with virtual hardware abstraction layers.
That's why I can't understand that a company, whose job is to take care of the files of its users, does lose these files. That seems as odd to me as a fiscal administration who would lose your informations; that can't happen. And yet, it does...
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who separate humankind in two distinct categories, and those who don't.
"I have two hobbies: breasts." DSK
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There is no guarantee it won't happen at another company. I should have chosen the option to pay monthly, instead of annually. My yearly subscription ends at October. I'll see if I can get my remaining money back.
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That should teach you all that USB drives, Private NAS drives and other personal backup / repositories were a good idea and that the cloud is a bad idea.
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The issue is not the cloud. The issue is trusting a single backup location (and I count "the cloud" as such). If you really care about backups, you should have different backup locations. And a cloud backup can still be a good choice for that as long as you still have your own copy somewhere.
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In the case of the cloud, different backup locations has to be different cloud providers not just different data centers from the same company. If CodeSpaces had maintained backups with Microsoft, Google, Rackspace, or etc having their Amazon ECS account compromised and nuked would not have brought them down permanently.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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No, the cloud as your sole repository is a bad idea, just like have only your own NAS is a bad idea.
Combining them as backups of each other and your local copies is a good idea.
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I wonder how "off-site" their backups really were if they could just be deleted from the control panel.
I store all of my code in Azure, but I also have everything backed up at home and on my own "off-site" backups. I always maintain 3 copies of everything I can't afford to lose, on seperate media, services and locations, none of which are connected to each other.
Unless an asteroid hits the East Coast and obliterates half the United States, it's impossible for me to lose everything like you have.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Unless an asteroid hits the East Coast and obliterates half the United States, it's impossible for me to lose everything like you have.
Now you're just tempting fate!!
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I guess I'll say, there's something suspicious here. The grammar is terrible, and the very concept that backup data could be wiped is hard to believe. Furthermore, they talk about DDOS but also someone who had access to their control panel. How are those two related? And then there's this bizarre statement:
Upon realisation that somebody had access to our control panel we started to investigate how access had been gained and what access that person had to the data in our systems, it became clear that so far no machine access had been achieved due to the intruder not having our Private Keys.
No machine acccess...not having private keys? What does the double negative mean? And why would you even futz around "investigating" if you thought access was compromised? I would instantly change passwords, keys, etc.
At this point we took action to take control back of our panel by changing passwords, however the intruder had prepared for this and had already created a number of backup logins
And you didn't check for this? Supposedly compounding the problem?
And why hasn't this story been picked up in the news? There is absolutely no mention of it anywhere that I've found.
To be honest, this looks like a "take the money and run" scheme.
Marc
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I was about to say the same thing. Alternatively, they lost data "accidentally" and are trying to cover themselves with the hacker theory.
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I agree with what you are saying but the pedant in me forces me to point out that "no machine access had been achieved due to the intruder not having our Private Keys" Is not a double negative.
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Track down the hacker and delete them.
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Never put stuff you care about in the cloud without local working copies! It sucks that a provider was taken down (although I agree that the explanation seems pretty implausible and it sounds like a take-the-money-and-run type of thing), but you should never lose data if a remote provider goes down or becomes unavailable. Disk space is so cheap that there's no point in ever deleting any of your local source code, it will all add up to less than one video or CD unless you're really prolific.
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The posting makes no sense to me. A big one is how would you lose the offsite backups? Sounds to me like an insider with a grudge did the deed.
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Certainly doesn't pass the smell test...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Probably for them "offsite" == in a different amazon data center.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Not wishing to take advantage of your misfortune, but this just confirms my distaste/distrust for "the Cloud".
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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