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Robert Conrad died at 84.
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"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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and roughly 149,999 other people too. (not all 84) 
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
modified 9-Feb-20 0:38am.
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What?
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Mortality rate - Wikipedia[^]
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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You should go ranting elsewhere 
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Just tell him to 'Knock it off!'
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Used to love Black Sheep Sqadron.
R.I.P.
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Same here, I used to watch it dubbed into French in the late 70's and early 80's and it was one of my favourite tv shows at the time.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I'm trying to cleanup this LL(k) table builder code that i ported from Javascript to C# and it's a nightmare. It's as disorganized as my desk. There are global-ish fields everywhere and very few comments.
Plus I don't understand how it actually works. I just ported it is all. I haven't dissected it and it's very difficult to do so - basically it would be an exercise in software forensics.
The code I'm porting was produced by two graduate students, and while they built something I couldn't, and so props to them for that, they did so with the most horrible code I've seen since the last time I reviewed an academic's code.
Is it that universities can't teach people to write clean software? Or do I just have terrible luck finding it?
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: Is it that universities can't teach people to write clean software?
FTFY!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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i was trying to be charitable. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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Part of the problem is that software "engineering" and computer science are rather different beasts. If the faculty is focused on computer science, it won't put much emphasis on software and may not even see it as a worthy pursuit. It's just a craft that must occasionally be dragged into various areas of computer science.
The problem is actually more widespread. My experience is that many companies with large software teams don't act as if software is important to their success. A software team is mostly seen as a cost center, and there is little drive for good design. A technical career path for people who prefer to focus on software doesn't exist or is weak. Among other things, a firm that runs a good software shop often has a software architect reporting directly to the VP of Engineering, and that person is compensated the same as the VP's other direct reports.
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My experience is worse: most of the current generation of students - or at least those I've seen - believe that "development" means "drag'n'drop from Smack Overdose"
And while I'm all for Modular Software, the modules do at least have to be in the same language ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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does it count as modular when it's stuck together with bailing wire and a prayer?
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No, you need duct tape and chewing gum as well.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Greg Utas wrote: Part of the problem is that software "engineering" and computer science are rather different beasts.
Thankfully this problem is slowly being addressed at some universities. Arizona State University, for example, differentiates between Computer Science and Software Engineering with separate degrees that diverge pretty heavily around sophomore year. The SE path has degree-specific courses covering topics like version control, continuous integration, project management, requirements elicitation, etc that the CS degree does not.
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I think it's hard to teach people how to write clean software. It's more a skill that is acquired gradually, both by seeing examples of good software and by writing software yourself, letting it "speak to you" as the saying goes, and being willing to refactor it even when it works. The largest piece of code I wrote in university was in assembler, something like 6,000 lines of code. In a high-level language, more like 3,000 lines. This doesn't quite prepare you for something that's far larger.
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The latest assembler i wrote i think wasn't even 1000, but then it has like 6 instructions and 1 macro so there's not much to it.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Don't think Michelangelo carved David the first time around.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: Don't think Michelangelo carved David the first time around.
[tap]...
[*crick*]...
[*CRASH* *TINKLE* *BANG*]!
Ehi, Padre! E' sufficiente un braccio solo?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You are correct: his first work in marble was the "Madonna of the Stairs" (~1491 CE).
Of course, as usual, your response came from the hole in your ozone layer where solar radiation scrambles your neurons 
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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And as usual, you misunderstood the context. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Stick your hate where it doesn't shine.
(Oh, wishing you better luck next time).
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
modified 8-Feb-20 20:20pm.
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Yay! That's amazing, 65,000 major components, nearly 50 years, 40KB of memory, and it still runs.
Perhaps Bill Gates should have said that 40KB ought to be enough for anybody ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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1 BSOD in 40 years? Bill Gates should have hired the talent!
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