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I've really wanted to use Spans and such more but they are only in Core so I'm holding out for .NET 5 which is supposed to unify everything (again )
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Spans are in .NET Standard as well as .NET Core.
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i didn't realize they were in standard but they're not in the dNF
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Yeah, the architecture of the old framework means it can't be backported.
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That's what I assumed. I got the impression the behavior of the CLI implementation was slightly different for each one. Otherwise they'd not need an external host app (dotnet.exe) i think.
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Does your gravy resemble a cemetery plot?
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Ew
I will think about that after having eaten my steak.
while (!(success = Try()));
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Does the navy resemble a flooded church?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Does the army live in a sleeve?
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Digging deep, Griff... digging deep.
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it always comes down to trial and error. make a thing, try a thing, go back and *remake* the thing because DHTML and CSS are funny in a sad kind of way - like an old married couple that hates each other but won't divorce.
is there a better way to do it? I mean other than schlepping it off onto someone else, which is my first choice.
is there some magic to web development that makes it not suck?
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I have some experience with Betty Blocks, and the HTML and CSS part is indeed quite easy, just drag it on the form.
Everything else sucks, like no source control, back-end code is also drag 'n drop, don't even try the newest front-end frameworks, weird database without a query language (that I know of)...
You can't have your pie and eat it too
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it sounds like trading one set of problems for another.
and speaking of this webdev crap, the WPF designer is about as bad as all that.
Which is why i don't use WPF
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I find with WPF that it's far easier just to write the XAML as text and ignore the WYSIWYMIYGBPW* editor as much as possible.
(*What you see is what you might imagine you'll get but probably won't).
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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does that somehow make error reporting come back?
i love when i put a control on a page and I get no control, and no error.
it just warms my black little heart.
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Sander Rossel wrote: It brings all the bad things of web development and mixes it with all the bad things of desktop development to give you the best desktop development tool ever
so they tried to make WPF?
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At least it's multi-platform... Give them some credit!
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Certainly, I give them credit for making it suck on any platform you want it to suck on.
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Short answer: no.
Long answer: neither (D)HTML nor CSS were really designed for the purpose they are used for, namely a browser-independent specification of page layout, etc. It is therefore no surprise that HTML development is so kludgy.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: neither (D)HTML nor CSS were really designed for
wait, they were designed?
I don't buy it.
I figure someone came up with them while drinking.
Like "hold my beer"
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Well ... there is Blazor: Blazor | Build client web apps with C# | .NET[^] - which should get rid of >50% of the actual suckery: Javascript. It still uses HTML and CSS though
I haven't tried it - I learned many years ago that anything microsoft count as "before RTM" (or even "before SP1") is realistically called "beta" - but it does look very interesting.
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javascript is actually not terrible for me with jquery.
a lot of times it's just spacing and overlapping layout crap that CSS does that takes all my time.
I could probably go back to using tables and cut my webdev time in half.
I think CSS was designed by committee, and that committee actually hates people - like a committee of misanthropes.
"Let's take something conceptually easy and make it nearly impossible to use instead, so that we can make people feel bad about themselves" - CSS working group.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I could probably go back to using tables
Wait, there's another way?
I don't care what is en vogue, tables rule!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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