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You can challenge it all you want. That means nothing to me.
Now, I'm just gonna assume you're not flat-out lying about this little CTO thing you got in your bio... But, if you reread the post, I mention needing to handle web requests. Now, can you imagine the need to able to parse a body response that many or may not be what you anticipated? Ever use the web before, where people say they're RESTful but they're not... especially in error conditions?
I could go on, but you already missed the entire point of the post man. 
Jeremy Falcon
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breath Jeremy. 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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lol, you are clearly passionate about what you are doing. I recognize the psych profile.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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You know me well, man. 
Jeremy Falcon
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OK, so tell me why you hate GO (language not the game).
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I don't. I promise I don't. It has an execution engine that runs at runtime and a garbage collector. I'm looking for a language that doesn't. The nerd in me is looking for raw speed for this app though. I'm sure it's a great language man. Promise I don't hate it.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Zig is to C as Rust is to C++
The main point of using Zig is that according to the author of the language it should encourage the DOD style, i.e., Data Oriented Design. As you rightly said, Zig is comparable with C. Since this “practice” tends to produce “cache-friendly” code, using Zig might be even better than using C, from the point of view of pure computational power. Even with C (and C++) you can write “cache-friendly” code, but you have to be careful how you write it. That said, I don't use Zig, so I may be talking rubbish.
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I'd answer your question in a language agnostic manner. You're not being stupid, but being cautious. To me, whether you need to be that cautious or not is entirely up to you.
You mention that it's a 'personal' project with no time constraints. In the pure sense of that, you can throw caution to the wind and have fun! But, if the definition of personal means that you might hope that it turns into an MVP down the road, I'd stay with the tried and true.
Aside from being the shiny object, would Zig get you where you want to be that much faster? Along with realizing that it may never get to 1.0. Sometimes the back of your head has the right answer even though your eyes may see it another way
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MikeCO10 wrote: To me, whether you need to be that cautious or not is entirely up to you.
Good point. Think I'm just in over worry mode, because that's what good times are made of. 
MikeCO10 wrote: But, if the definition of personal means that you might hope that it turns into an MVP down the road, I'd stay with the tried and true.
Good point. This project is personal to me, but it still needs to function as if it were not. I'll never resale it as I do not want to support it, but it needs to be rock solid no different than a commercial app.
MikeCO10 wrote: Aside from being the shiny object, would Zig get you where you want to be that much faster? Along with realizing that it may never get to 1.0. Sometimes the back of your head has the right answer even though your eyes may see it another way
You speak from experience.
I'll admit I did get caught up in the new shiny object thing a bit since AFAIK there hasn't been a viable "C 2.0" as it were until now IMO. I'm pretty sure they're serious enough to take it to 1.0, but yeah you're right... either way it's a gamble.
Jeremy Falcon
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Stick with C or move to C++.
We also now have Rust.
Anything else and you could be risking more than you would want...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Wordle 1,162 3/6*
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I know what you mean, but it's the US spelling again.
I dithered for a while before tying it because I couldn't think of any other words that I hadn't eliminated. Looks odd without a second word after it, or a double letter! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Mechanical Engineers often use this word, but with six letters instead of five. I too didn't think it was an English word.
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Wordle 1,162 4/6
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Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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What a shocker. What's next, "COLOR", "FAVOR"? 
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Armor is in their list
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Could be anything - after all in Murican English, "Food" is spelled "Kfc" ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 1,162 4/6
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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I swear I've asked this before, but I cannot find it. Honey, looking at you because for some reason I think you do development on Linux.
Direct link to past discussions welcome.
I'm in the process of cleaning up some hardware and repurposing it. Looking at C/C++ and heading over to full stack development.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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All of them are good for development, but they are not all the same when it comes to just using the OS. I'll try to keep this short, but I'll probably yap.
In the Linux world, there's distros that follow what's called a rolling release. Which is to say, no real user testing for updates. Dev done. Bam. You get. You don't want that as your first one. They're easier to break and require way more frequent updates. Meant for tinkerers who need the bleeding edge of crap to feel superior while not actually using the OS to do any work.
The second thing to consider for whether or not to use Wayland or X11 for your desktop experience. Here's the short version... use Wayland. If you game, some older games may require X11, but every distro that gives you Wayland support will allow you to fall back to X11. It's akin to Windows vs DOS back in the 90s. But Wayland gonna run smoother.
Given all that, the best starter distros to use are Debian-based that solve some of the hassles of the desktop experience and use Wayland by default. So...
Ubuntu
Ubuntu - By far the most popular distro and for a good reason. You can't go wrong with it. Tons of help online, etc. too. It uses Gnome however, which is more like a cross between iOS and Win 8's start menu than Windows 10. You can change this though via extensions. So, there will be a learning curve. But, you can't go wrong with it and it's what I'm using right now to post this.
Kubuntu
Kubuntu - Same exact thing as Ubuntu but ships with KDE instead of Gnome. Long story short, this version feels a lot more like Windows. If that's your jam it's a good way to go. They do this silly thing where everything starts with K though (Konsole instead of Console), but it's still a very good distro. Can't go wrong with it.
Linux Mint
If you don't care about Wayland (you should unless your computer is 20 years old), there's Linux Mint. It's a very nice and polished distro but it's still on X11 and will be for a while. It's based on Ubuntu and so also based on Debian. IMO it's a last resort though, especially if you have a modern GPU.
All three of these distros are beginner friendly, as much as can be considering. You can't go wrong with them.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 24-Aug-24 7:49am.
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Years ago, I tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu but didn't like either Gnome or KDE - both seemed too focussed on colours, shading and pretty icons, hence XFCE on Debian - simple, no fuss, hardly anything to tweak except what really needs tweaking...
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I've been using Linux since the 90s, so I know all about Xfce. And I use direct Debian on servers/WSL. But, he's presumably looking for a beginner friendly desktop OS by the nature of the question. And as much as I love direct Debian dealing with drivers for it are not beginner friendly.
Couple things to note, KDE uses less resources than Xfce last I checked. If you like it, cool. But, let's not play the game of "oh mine's better because I use it" please.
Also, if someone is determined to use Xfce, Mint also makes a Xfce edition. Which for a beginner is a better way to go than direct Debian.
I say this as a dude who loves Debian.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 23-Aug-24 20:11pm.
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"But, he's presumably looking for a beginner friendly desktop OS by the nature of the question."
Not so fast there whipper snapper I'm just getting ready to jump back in the pool. The desktop doesn't concern me too much. So, let me supply some context.
Sure, there is the desktop, but I can manage that. I cut my teeth on X11/Xtoolkit and Motif. I've developed on and supported X Windows Servers. I've also supported and developed on Solaris, HPUX, AIX, Ultrix. I don't care about the desktop per se'. But if you do hard core unix development, it really comes down to stability, predictability and toolsets. Considering that linux has a common code base, and ignoring the desktop, I would expect any development tools to run on any distribution.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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