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so I've never been a fan of stupidity, mine or anyone elses', and Microsoft seems to have staff meetings to escalate theirs.
Enter Apple.
I really don't watch much TV, maybe 1 or 2 football games a year (never soccer) and some ice hockey now and then, but I discovered I can see game re-caps on youtube, so good enough for me. I'm simply not going to pay $75/month for the right to turn off garbage tv. So Spielberg and Hanks FINALLY came out with Masters of the Air which was mostly utter nonsense with the exception of the US Army Airforce crews being slaughtered until the P51 Mustang became available. The German pilots were mean SOBs - no offense intended. So, I subscribed to Apple TV to catch the episodes, and with the last episode, I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
Checking credit card statements, they have continued to charge me, and on their web site make it nigh impossible to cancel. Canceled it twice, still being charged. Cannot get anyone to help me - they claim they do, but the charges kept coming. Okay, want to play this game? Created a virtual credit card # with a $1/day max amount, swapped the apple tv <-- this is my mistake here -- to that account #. I also refused the charges on my account. Do you think Apple might contact me? I've had an iPhone for 6+ years, etc. Nope.
My iPhone will no longer allow me access to the app store (all I tried to do was update a free app).
This is why I DESPISE single login. It is 8am on the east coast of America, 6/2/2024. I will now start a gambling pool for when all $hit breaks loose from my wife, older daughter, younger daughter who are all on my account.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Quote: I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
1. you can't win
2. you can't break even.
3. you can't get out of the game
So, what's new? 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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shut up old guy  said from an old guy....
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Yup, these days I shake my head a lot.
Now I understand what my grandfather meant when he said something about a hand basket.
(every hundred years, all new people)
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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File a complaint with the FTC.
The "Restore Online Shoppers' Confidence Act" is supposed to make that easy. The FTC is now attempting to put more rules into place to force companies to make it as easy to cancel as it is to sign up.
If feeling snarky you might also send a letter afterwards to them telling them you have filed a complaint.
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I found cancelling the credit card an effective way to remove the leeches but then I don't have 2 daughters attached to the account.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Get the cancellation confirmation in writing and then dispute the charges. Include the cancellation. If the credit card company goes with Apple, just call them and tell them your card was lost and they'll kill the old card number in a heartbeat.
Then go to your local phone company and buy an Android device for everyone.
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yes yes, I know the drill, which is why I love virtual accounts. Boop, they gone. Strongly recommend EVERYONE use them. You have no idea how secure the website is you are shopping on - or home depot for that matter  .
I just find it astounding, irritating and elephanting criminal how companies like Apple bleed people.... assuming these people actually notice. I cite my mid 80s in-laws.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I just find it astounding, irritating and elephanting criminal how companies like Apple bleed people.... assuming these people actually notice. I cite my mid 80s in-laws.
This.
Companies like Apple have zero problem taking advantage of people who won't do anything about a subscription or some service because of, well, the hassle involved in "changing anything". So imagine being part of "the ecosystem" when it comes to Apple's.
There people are there until they die. And then some.
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AAPL will be the 2nd worst company of history to Dutch East India for a good while I expect.
Once people look back on it, they'll figure out it wasn't just PC-fanboyism tribalizing against a brand.
They're terrible.
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Apparently this is actually a thing. My wife had told me about it.
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The summer Olympics will soon be held in Paris. The government has spent $1.5B cleaning up the Seine so that it can be used for aquatic events. Macron and the mayor of Paris have promised to swim in the river to prove its cleanliness. Therefore, a mass "Defecate in the Seine" event is being organized. Apparently it's going swimmingly.
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Alas, unintended consequences.
"People are a problem." -- The Book.
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Perhaps the government should not have made public the amount spent in this.
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Amarnath S wrote: Perhaps the government should not have made public the amount spent in this. gone ahead literally sending that sort of money down the river to begin with
FTFY.
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Merde!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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"Vive la France!"
Bear with me here.
Having 4 USARMY soldiers and at least two Marines (all who are not IT and have gone outside the wire, well the 3rd son jumps out of planes - name your altitude) in the family, the French used to be despised or at least disparaged in this household. As for the # of people who have served or are serving, I have lost count. I have an extensive extended family, I quit facebook, I don't do X, and I don't do Instagram, so I have lost count of the great grand children, but I have a lock on the grand kids, so I count them as well.
That said, I came across this letter when two of my sons were in heavy combat: https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/1wbyiq/american_troops_as_seen_by_a_french_soldier_a/[^]
I don't think this is false, I'm sure "snopes" will disparage it, but I want it to be real. My judgement of the French went up about 10000%. you are pissy, snobbish, down right annoying (I could be describing Americans or drunk British soccer fans - I'm on a roll this morning) but any country that has citizens doing this - hat's off. I also like farmers that revolt. Oh A, Canadian truckers too  .
I don't like government as you can tell. we still have crap we're tearing down in Atlanta from 1996. You Frogs, keep it up
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Sad story, I do not see any fun here ...
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Yeah, I agree. Sign of the times.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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