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i know.
I am not against downvoting, it actualy helps when explained with the right words.
Its not the case, too many downvote with no message at all (you can check today Q&A).
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I keep away from Q&A, but imagine it goes similar as on the forums.
We get help-vampires, requests to perform things that are illegal, and people who are outright lazy, not just beginning programmers. A downvote has almost no consequences - and in general, someone is paying for code - they may react a bit harsher then we.
Would you rather be roasted by me on the forum without consequences, or would you rather be roasted by the users when you release your stuff? Think about it
And we do explain; I can see some lengthy answers in the forums that could be considered small articles. That's what keeps me here, and not on SO - people can go offtopic here (and do) and explore/explain other related stuff, or warn about pitfalls they already encountered.
I'll agree that a downvote should not be a hit-and-run thing. If one downvotes, an explanation is expected
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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When you tell the user to supply the code they have written so you can look at it, and there reply is: give me the code... they are not even bothering to read the responses.
Or when they say, "This is my first assignment" and refuse to offer up anything they've done... this is not the free homework society.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 3) The user essentially didn't post a question as much as he posted a demand, aka "Send the codez - Urgent".
That won't work - It has to be "Urgentz"!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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I agree with you.
I think questions shouldn't be downvoted at all.
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How else can we vent our spleen? I've tried hitting my head against a brick wall but it does not make me feel better.
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I use my desk, and it does make me feel wonderful when I stop.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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And the wall complains, by the way.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I've tried hitting my head against a brick wall but it does not make me feel better.
Of course it does... but only when you stop
"I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle
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Ziee-M wrote: many questions downvoted lately What do you mean by downvoting? You can rate it from 1 to 5 or you can report it as unclear or not a question but you can't actually downvote.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Yeah, you can.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Yeah, you can How?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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It's all in the stars.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It's all in the stars. Which of course I mentioned. Downvoting, as you know, is something different. People often refer to downvoting a question and I don't know if they mean rating it 1 star or reporting it. It's important to communicate properly.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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1 star and 2 starts are downvote, you get -25 if im not wrong.
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Ziee-M wrote: 1 star and 2 starts are downvote, you get -25 if im not wrong. I see. But downvoting is different but I know what you mean now. Like this message, for example, to the left has an arrow to downvote; although it should be disabled.
So, do you think people actually notice that their questions are being given low ratings?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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011111100010 wrote: So, do you think people actually notice that there questions are being given low ratings?
"their"
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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A red notification just to let you know: -25.
I will not miss it
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The points deduction is weighted according to the reputation of the user that's casting the vote.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Do you have any links to questions that you feel have been wrongly down-voted?
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Not Wrongly downvoted,
I totaly understand why they got downvoted.
But i dont like :
- No explanation fro downvote.
- fresh users (like its his first or second question)
Welcome new users to CP, here is our gift : -25
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It's the internet, live with it.
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I too do get a bit irritated that questions are downvoted without explanation, but I'm right up there with the frustrations the others have mentioned.
I very rarely downvote (1,2 star or whatever you want to call it) a question. If I've asked for clarification and I don't get it I tend to use the reporting system to mark it as unclear. If enough people do that then it disappears, the OP gets an email and potentially a valuable lesson is learned!
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I think that in some cases, providing a reason for a down-vote would actually involve more effort than has been put into the actual "question."
I think that by and large, down-votes are dished out quite fairly, no-one (I would hope) is marking people down for asking something that's too basic or for simply not "getting" something. Down-voted questions tend to follow certain patterns:
1) Homework question with "What I have tried" set to "nothing" or "can't be bothered."
2) Issue with zero information - "I am trying to write an accounting system and I get an error."
3) Illegal/morally dubious stuff - "I want to enslave your GPU for mining Bitcoins. Haz u got codez 2 help me?"
With all the warmth and generosity of spirit in the world, it would be difficult to argue that any of these are enhancing the site in any way or that their posters should escape with their site reputations untarnished. If someone's contribution is negative, it does actually make sense for them to have a negative rep in recognition of that.
What we maybe don't do enough of is up-voting good questions (of which there are many).
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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