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Jeremy Falcon wrote: hat being said, I'm not getting married any time soon.
I knew you were not married before I read this part.
Trust me when I tell you that, marriage is not natural. The only reason why a couple stays together is out of some form of "work", good or bad.
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Slacker007 wrote: I knew you were not married before I read this part.
Fair enough, but I get along with the right women great. So living with them wouldn't be a problem. Of course I'd still get away to go do manly stuff. That's the key though, the right women. The wrong type of person will drive you up a wall.
The longest I've lived with a woman that was a girlfriend was 7 years. It sucked, we argued a fair amount. But, I know it also had more to do with me being immature (and her too) than anything else. Not saying I'd ever do it again, so I totally see your point. But, I'm older and wiser now and think I could do a better job at finding someone I'm more compatible with, assuming she has a twin sister.
Jeremy Falcon
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Keep in mind if I did live with a girl again, I wouldn't be getting married to her. So, I'll just say that ignorance is bliss my man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Few animals are naturally monogamous; primates aren't one of them. And there's no reason a particular marriage has to be monogamous.
modified 2-Dec-14 14:58pm.
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People say that, and yet they all get married. So while I agree with what you're saying, it's hard to listen to it if it's coming from someone married (don't know if you are or not) or coming from guys that have little to no relationship experience (like most programmers; again not saying that's you).
I know part of the reason it sucks it because of the lack of relationship experience. Most men don't understand women and most women don't understand men. Most tie themselves down before even shopping. A life-long commitment with lack of experience on what you're getting into is a great recipe for trouble regardless if animals do it or not.
Keep in mind I have no kids and never been married. Ha ha.
Jeremy Falcon
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I'm saying don't assume a marriage must include monogamy. Mine doesn't.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Most tie themselves down
No, that's what the other women are for.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I'm saying don't assume a marriage must include monogamy. Mine doesn't.
Yeah I caught that part with the second response. And good for you man, sounds like you found a great woman.
Jeremy Falcon
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And there's no reason a particular marriage has to be monogamous.
Oh, and I totally agree with that. The best women understand a man's need to roam free IMO. The problem arises from deceit about it. Women care about intimacy and connection in a relationship a LOT. That goes out the window when a guy lies about what he does in his off time. Not every women goes for it. Some want to be a part of it. But yeah, I totally agree with that.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: deceit
Well, that's a whole separate ball of trouble.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And there's no reason a particular marriage has to should not be monogamous.
FTFY.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Slacker007 wrote: Marriage is not natural Neither is doing #2 in a toilet. But intelligent beings do certain things because it's the right thing to do; whether it is natural or not.
Natural often does not equal right.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Are you a practicing Christian, by chance? Marriage is not always the right (correct) thing to do. It is if you are religious.
edit - a couple can live many happy years together, without being married. Some say that it is easier to be with someone if you are not "married".
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Slacker007 wrote: Are you a practicing Christian, by chance? Yes.
Slacker007 wrote: Marriage is not always the right (correct) thing to do. True.
Slacker007 wrote: It is if you are religious. Not always.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Not always.
but it influences your life and opinion. Your thoughts are dictated by the church (probably) and not other wise. Could be wrong, just guessing. No harm in that.
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I totally agree with a lot of what you're saying, just curious if you're married or not?
Jeremy Falcon
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Married for almost 20 years and ex practicing Christian.
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You gotta admit the irony here is funny. Here you are saying don't get hitched while you're married yourself, and here I am saying it can work and yet I won't get married myself.
Jeremy Falcon
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When did I say "don't get hitched"?
What I am saying is, is that marriage is not natural and that it requires work. I chose to work at it. If I no longer choose to work at it, then I get divorced.
modified 3-Dec-14 6:56am.
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You never said anything good about it (that I've read) to counter balance your stance up until this point. So, it's easy to infer that, right or wrong. That's the inference.
Jeremy Falcon
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Ah.
You are correct in your "inference". My marriage has had some very rough moments, of which, I almost quit. For whatever reasons, the wife and I are doing great, our children are great, and I "would not" want to be without them.
If we don't chat again, have a good holiday, Jeremy. I mean that.
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Slacker007 wrote: If we don't chat again, have a good holiday, Jeremy. I mean that.
You too man!
Jeremy Falcon
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Oh, and I'm not religious either. My entire family is Christian (hypocritical ones though), so I know the influence. More people need to study more religions than the besides the one they grew up in. They'd be a lot wiser. Anyway, kudos for you thinking outside the box.
I am spiritual though, which to me, has nothing to do with formalized religious practices.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I am spiritual though, which to me, has nothing to do with formalized religious practices.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: My entire family is Christian (hypocritical ones though) To be fair, nearly everyone is hypocritical to some extent.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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