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Welcome to CP. You're off to a good start!
As for asking questions, the first thing is to pick the right forum. Have a look, see if your question "fits".
IF nowhere else seems to match, there's always Quick Answers[^].
Also, find any post by @Dave-Kreskowiak and follow the links in his sig.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Never heard of the word and it still doesn't sound like a real word to me.
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It is a real word. I considered it for my penultimate attempt.
Related to the catholic church.
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Yeah, I looked it up.
It's not a word you hear often, or at all.
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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So my wife is out looking for patterns - she's a crafter - and has managed to pick up a rather insidious ad dohicky that pops up, claims the end of the world, you need McAffeee (really?), etc. Call this number. In doing my research, I came across this gem on the Microsoft "community" forums:
"Edge can now run in the background due to a new feature, you may wish to turn this off."
Are you elephanting kidding me? Turning this off fixed the issue, but wow. Microsoft, take Edge and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I've learned more. More info to come. Microsoft blows. 4.5 weeks.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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wow, turns out those Microsoft peckerheads have embedded Edge as sort of a default user interface. I've come across postings on support where Edge runs in the background by default. I suspect it is how they push their ad bs to the desktop. So, if your desktop gets hijacked, and you are getting popups demanding you install mcafee, it's because Edge is running in the background. Another example of Microsoft nonsense about security and what not.
I run professional and I f'ing refuse to create a network account so that "all of my devices" are in sync. Hell no. Windows 11 Home makes it hard to do this, Pro is a little better. This weekend's task is to switch SWMBO back to a local account and replace office 365. Doing a quick google search for "how to switch a windows 11 home laptop back to local login" the second result is "Change from a local account to a Microsoft account" 
Consider this a PSA. By the end of the summer, I'll be all unix unless someone tosses me a basket full of cash.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I'm not sure I'm getting the full picture.
Edge can run as a background task even though you might not have launched it yourself. Ok, given how pervasive browsers are nowadays, I can't say I'm surprised. Even back in 1997, Gates himself was claiming in front of a judge that it was impossible to remove IE from Windows.
Every McAfee ad I've ever seen (and there's been plenty) was hosted on some web page, but I've never seen a standalone ad for it (if that's what you're describing). Or could that system have come with the typical McAfee 60-day trial, after which time it becomes even more of an annoyance. And if that's the case, then that's even worse than some browser-hosted pop-up ad, as this means McAfee has an actual EXE running on that system (and running with full admin rights, as AVs do).
And I'm not sure where a local account vs a Microsoft account comes into play or might fix anything.
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A couple of thoughts, first:
"And I'm not sure where a local account vs a Microsoft account comes into play or might fix anything."
Correct, I was ranting. I don't like Apple syncing everywhere, but I sure as hell don't want MS doing it. Moving on, it's clear to me that there is a mission for MS to integrate - not the browser, not the apps, but the entire the computer into the AI and browser bs. Of course, you agreed to this when your computer force rebooted with the last update.
Pay attention now - because of MS changes, adware can hijack your task bar. Ponder that. MS has canned responses on their support comments saying this is all okay, blah blah blah. Edge now runs in the background without your knowing consent. You can turn it off, but these assholes have not learned anything in the last few decades. Remember, the talking heads gave us forced reboots and BS answers about Windows 11 being more secure. Utter BS.
Decades ago, you could never get a virus from reading email - unless you clicked/downloaded/ran an attachment. Then MS released an update to Outlook Express that "helped users have a more interactive and entertaining environment." Now we're back to this again? Really?
I'd argue that MS as well as an app maker that phones home needs to be held liable, no exceptions. I'll go get my beer and popcorn.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I'm pretty sure lots of Windows things used to depend on Internet Explorer. Nothing new under the MS sun.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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they tried this a long long time ago, and the United States Government - that I don't really care for - called BS on it. Years later, we're back to this BS?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Similar to what i mentioned a few days ago.
I get this message 'Edge is using your webcam', this is with Egde not even being opened.
Makes me feel whether Edge is sending these webcam images to some server, for further use as image dataset for AI.
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going to go find my blue tape. I've never seen a message like that but holy f**k batman comes to mind.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Interesting exercise (best on a VM):
Install Chrome/Vivaldi and make it the default browser.
Then open File Explorer and go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application and rename msedge.exe (I named it msedge.exe.FO)
See what works and what doesn't. 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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In July.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Is it just me or is it time developers stopped adding those annoying GOT IT? popups everywhere. You're trying to use an app you've used a million times. You open it up, start diving in and..
Did you know you can change
the colour of the menu bar
to a slightly lighter shade of
purple!?!
[ Got it ]
And you can't do anything until you click "Got it". And then another pops up telling you that you can announce you can connect your spreadsheets to your social media account, and you can get notifications you don't want. And that they changed the menus to third-person plural.
I don't care, and you're stopping me from using the thing I'm paying for. And none of this is even vaguely important enough to stop me from doing anything until I acknowledge you.
Has anyone implemented these types of announcements, and if so, has there been a case where, in all honesty, it's important enough that someone acknowledges before they can do anything?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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