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I am not versed in law.
Daniel Pfeffer wrote: I would argue that the license transfer is legal, because the license is not tied to a particular country. If a person, living in a "cheap" country, emigrates to an "expensive" country, the licenses to their software do not expire. Why, then, should a transfer of license across borders invalidate the license? Same reason why I cannot sell cigarettes from Spain here.
Daniel Pfeffer wrote: This is a matter for the civil Courts, and the answer may not be what either of us think. I think it would disappoint you, but go ahead.
You can argue before law, feel free. Did you accept the license? As that is the binding agreement.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I am also not a lawyer.
I just read the EULA for Home & Student edition 2019 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Office/2019HomeandStudent/Useterms_Retail_Office_2019HomeandStudent_English.htm)
Quote: 3. Transfer to a Third Party. The provisions of this section do not apply if you acquired the software in the European Economic Area (EEA) and only transfer it to another person or entity within the EEA, in which case any transfer of the software and the right to use it must comply with applicable law.
a.Software preinstalled on device. If you acquired the software preinstalled on a device, you may transfer the software directly to another user, only with the licensed device. The transfer must include the software and, if provided with the device, an authentic Office label including the product key. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.
b.Stand-alone software acquired from a retailer.If you acquired the software from a retailer as stand-alone software, you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you, but not more than one time every 90 days (except due to hardware failure, in which case you may transfer sooner). If you transfer the software to another device, that other device becomes the “licensed device.” You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.
Outside the EEA:
If the seller is a "retailer", then you are the first licensed user and section 3(b) appears to apply. If the seller is the "first licensee", section 3(b) still applies. The only mention of geographical areas in the license is in regard to certain extra rights / limitations (sections 12-14), and they do not mention transfers.
Inside the EEA (==EU + Iceland, Lichtenstein, and Norway):
Section 3 doesn't apply, but I strongly doubt that local law forbids you to license software from abroad.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Section 3 doesn't apply, but I strongly doubt that local law forbids you to license software from abroad. I've looked for cheaper versions of Windows and found none.
If it's possible, then I'm interested
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Wordle 427 5/6
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Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Just made it.
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 427 2/6
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Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I take it you tried several first?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Eh ?
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I know. There are too many letters in "several".
*gets coat* *slinks out*
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It means "I assume your starter word was 'TRIED', but I don't want to give any spoilers".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 427 5/6*
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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How did that get so popular?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Jumped to great start
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:06pm.
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As long as it is in domain on venting out in polite language or just sharing the pains as a user of said software as opposed to programmer.
So, stating Android is giving me problem doing ABC is fine. How to write ABC code for an Android phone is perhaps better suited for another place.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
modified 19-Aug-22 7:04am.
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Quote: For discussing anything related to a software developer's life but is not for programming questions. Is that not clear enough?
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Correct, you may complain about your little Nash Rambler, but you may not ask about how to get it of out of second gear.
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:06pm.
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condolences!
anything in logs at same time?
tried sudo apt update to see if there is an update that might fix it?
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:06pm.
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