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"Swisscom".... now it is not the cheapest one, but I'm still fan of it. Products are ok (at least for me) and Service -my experience- is great 
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Pidgin.
On Linux
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Please in easy words I can understannnnnd. Pleaaaaassseeee
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Pidgin. I've used this at one time when I had several IM accounts. It works on Windows too. You can use it in combination with Google Talk (or whatever they call it now, assuming it is still supported).
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Thank you for this hint 
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Thank you for this. I will check your links.
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I believe there's some ancient technology around called a telephone!
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aha 
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I still prefer paper and pencil
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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Yep so I do. But I still have Problems to assign an IP to my paper 
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Papers generally have decimal based IPs. Laymen call them page numbers. Of course you will be prone to IP conflicts if you mix 2 set of documents. However, data analysis technology used with papers is top notch. It is called RaFO: Read and Figure Out.
BTW, just to mess with you, try GhostCall. Seriously, stick to Skype.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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Thank your hint with GhostCall.
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WhatsApp - would it serve your purpose?
Of course, a lot of discipline is needed with WhatsApp. For example, I only connect to the Internet twice a day (from my mobile), for about 10-15 minutes each, so useless things don't nudge out useful things from my timetable.
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No, not an Option with my Virus safe ten year old Nokia
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this is not a recommendation, but I'm curious so I want to ask...
What's wrong with having the latest updates of a working and free software in your computer?
I do install the service packs of Windows when they come and I'm happy with that... Meanwhile they are not forcing me to change the software I'm using (i.e. win7 to 10) I'm OK.
Skype is a good/interesting option when you have the Skype wifi, Skype plans to call abroad... which both of them are good for small businesses.
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On most Points you are right. What's bugging me is that (at least) the last two updates from Skype were very bad and such things I would not have automatically installed.
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(In the following message I'm referring to VS Pro editions),
So MS announced at Connect2015 that Visual Studio can now obtained on a monthly and annual subscription.
Looking at the comparison, monthly does not give you the benefits of access to the other software stuff like windows editions/SQL server etc. etc.
It also looks like the Annual is almost half the price compared Visual Studio + MSDN renewal price.
I cannot see what the benefit is now of the VS+MSDN option, from what i can see you get a couple of support incidents thrown in, but with google and the likes of you guys who needs them!
SO, Thoughts on the new subs options?
hmmm...
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Hi, Dave, Do you think it's possible we haven't sussed out all the Catch-22's yet ?
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I did consider it!
Nothing is simple........they [MS] have made a right mess of the credential management across the various platforms, add this to mix and I have a feeling I'll end up doing something and losing a bunch of other stuff.
Fortunately I don't have anything really in Azure at the moment to worry me and haven't migrated to O365 with the family fully yet, but only one of my domains. Tried to link my Azure AD O365 directory (on an Organizational account) to my Azure AD (from MSDN Sub) on a Personal account and it just doesn't play ball as per expectations and appears to just fail silently. Spent hours last month trying to work out WTF was going on and still not got to the bottom of things.
The password rules on O365 Web Interface are too strict, but can be toned down via Powershell and AD, but still too complex for my kids email accounts, was trying manage via one place, but it is a nightmare.... 
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First thought would be can you keep using VS after letting a yearly subscription? With MSDN you're allowed to keep using anything you had after letting your subscription lapse.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Looked at the comparison table[^], and yeah you lose the ability to keep using anything after your sub runs out. I'm a bit curious how this will work in practice; does it require VS to have internet access to periodically phone home? (At times I need to work on an airgapped network; so that's completely out.) For business users it looks like the traditional version only needs paid up every 3 years; which'd make it significantly cheaper for businesses; maybe not though the other VS pro[^] page makes no mention of longer than 1 year terms so who knows...
For small businesses/etc they might be deliberately pricing the cloud subscription significantly cheaper to convince people to switch over. That at least puts them one up on Adobe's pricing when they switched to a subscription model.
For the high end VS Enterprise[^] version, over the long term the conventional MSDN sub is still cheaper. OTOH with it needing 7 years to break even, that might not matter much unless businesses can xfer subs to new hires when old ones leave.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I find it hard to take design patterns seriously when they have names like "The Revealing Module Pattern".
Makes me think of those badly made seventies kung-fu films where someone boasts that he can do the "Drunken ugly-donkey style".
Ignore me. It's Friday and my mind is wandering...
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: "Drunken ugly-donkey style".
Is that the style that uses the 'five-point-palm exploding heart technique'?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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jeron1 wrote: Is that the style that uses the 'five-point-palm exploding heart technique'?
Best pattern with the Crane stance
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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