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Don't worry, I have pretty thick skim.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes, but I would not go spreading that around!
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You're getting this stick down pat.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta tomorrow (noun): a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
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Yes, unless you are a member of the oliogarchy.
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Oil get you for that one! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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A toast ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) to how you milk this for all it's worth!
Software Zen: delete this;
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To everything, churn, churn, churn
There is a season, churn, churn, churn
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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A time to power up, a time to switch off
A time to edit, a time to compile
A time to cut, a time to paste
A time to debug, a time to release.
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I is difficult for me to put into words how much I hate web development.
The HTML stack is the worst development stack in the history of mankind.
That said, I'm reading up on ASP.NET MVC for the very first time.
I've never applied this type of architecture to web pages before and I'm finding it very interesting. Just the fact that it claims to embrace the stateless nature of the web seems to be a breath of fresh air - as if maybe I'll no longer be fighting that battle.
So am I in the honeymoon phase here or is MVC really that much of an improvement?
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I take it you don't mind the 300+ files created when you start a new project?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Ooh, thanks 
Interestingly enough when I started looking at MVC5 I thought - "I recognise that, it's pretty much how I have designed the architecture for the ERP system I wrote in my current business".
It does seem to be a way of guiding people into good software engineering/architecture without them having to learn the hard way as I did.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: I recognise that, it's pretty much how I have designed the architecture for the ERP system
If you are already using that architecture then ASP.NET MVC will be very easy and exactly what you expected. The challenge of starting out is :
there are so many technologies (JavaScript, Bootstrap, Razor engine and more) mixed together it is difficult to get a good handle on what is what.
I've really attempted to do that with my articles. Hope they help.
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I felt the same way being a C++ / MFC / WinForms developer who then moved to C# winforms for a long time.
I then migrated to ASP.NET (classic not MVC) and though it did offer some nice OOP layer over the top of ASP badness it wasn't great. (PageController was limited).
Now, MVC is very very good and as soon as you learn the various layers (Views via Razor Engine, Controller power and true separation) you will love it.
Insert Gratuitous Self-Promotion Here
I've written a couple of very beginning articles (at CP) on MVC via Visual Studio just last month.
Maybe you'll enjoy them:
ASP.NET MVC : Build Your Custom Blog Engine (CMS) - Part 1 of 2(Own ASP.NET MVC)[^]
Good luck.
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What gets me down is the amount of Javascript that needs to be written. Maybe it will get better with experience, but developing a web app takes me much longer than a Windows WPF app.
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I would suggest to try using some framework like AngularJS to aid you. It reduces the bunch of HTML /JS you need to write and it works well with MVC..
Thanks,
Milind
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I used it on my site and it is a breathe of fresh air, but it definitely is a new way of doing things.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta tomorrow (noun): a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
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I have developed many, many sites using WebForms. And a few using MVC. They're just tools. Pick the one you're comfortable with and ignore all the hype.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: They're just tools. Pick the one you're comfortable with and ignore all the hype.
I agree with you 100%.
There is sooooooooo much hype with all this stuff you can barely see through the fog to get to the learning / using part. AngularJS, Bootstrap, Backbone, Razor, YAJL (YetAnotherJavaScript Library), CSS, ad infinitum.
Use the one that let's you build fast and extend easily.
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raddevus wrote: ad infinitum
Can you provide a link to this new library? 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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MVC is great. ASP.NET MVC is bloated, but still pretty cool.
At the end of the day it's still web and requires HTML, CSS, and JavaScript which pretty much sucks.
HTML and CSS just does not work (in all browsers).
I'm starting to get used to JavaScript (I might even start to like it a bit).
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