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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Yeah I know, only 20 years too late right?
And with any luck, another 20 years will go by where I don't have to learn this "language." 
Marc
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Jeremy Falcon
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Amen! The languages below, I hope I will never have to use them.
PHP, Ruby, Python, and Object-C.
They are not inherently bad, just some quirks that make I scratch my head. What in the world are they thinking when they make some decision to do the syntax, directives, space indentation, and many other requirements the way they are. Its like an after thought features.
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Leng Vang wrote: They are not inherently bad, just some quirks that make I scratch my head
Well PHP I can speak about. If starting it today I'd not learn it, but I've been riding the PHP wave since the 90s and have adopted it much like a stepchild. It must feel loved! So, having used it for a couple decades I can tell you this much...
As to why it's a clusterfudge... it suffers the same problems as the Win32 API did. Part of the reason Microsoft just flat out dumped the API (for the most part) is because it too because a clusterfludge having to keep backwards compatibility from days when fancy designs in languages weren't as mainstream. But as soon as you touch something, things break and tons of people complain. PHP has been king of the web since pre-dotcom boom. And suffers the same exact issues, for better or worse, as it was originally designed for speed over everything else - including design.
It's not like the PHP group has the marketing budget of MS to just dump PHP and start over. And so, you get what we have. Despite it's design issues though, I still find PHP useful and of course, it's the grandfather of a lot of these web languages. So, it has to receive some love for that, if for no other reason then to serve as a stepping stone for improvement. Prior to PHP, most fancy web dev was done over CGI directly in C/C++. PHP helped proliferate server-side web development.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: kinda like Option Explicit in VB
I'm pretty sure you meant Option Strict (which can also be set in Visual Studio for ALL your VB files) 
Ah, those good old VB days 
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No I meant Option Explicit. I know of Option Strict, but I meant how the Option mechanism works. And I used Option Explicit since it's by far the more popular of the options in VB land. It's called context and inference bro. Not everything is so literal. But, thanks for the correction I didn't ask for as usual. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Sorry, I was just getting nostalgic
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Wow, I'm not that old! 
I started with Visual Basic.NET in 2010 and switched to C# in 2013 or something.
Didn't know repl.it though, pretty neat stuff! 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Wow, I'm not that old
Just wait, my friend, one day you will be. Maybe... science and all being what it is.
Jeremy Falcon
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ain't it great how type-free languages feel all growed-up when they get types, while typed languages take a step into the future when they learn how to be type-free?
it's like people just enjoy change.
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One of the great ironies of life.
Jeremy Falcon
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[Study Article]
When I read the article above, its typical and make my eyes roll. Execs don't trust their internal IT, but when they go ahead and acquired a solution from 3rd party, 91% of them are useless. One thing comes to mind, most executives don't invested enough in their own organization.
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Good news for consultants!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Same one. I just didn't see it.
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I have a lengthy reply sitting on my computer at home that I have to finish. Basically, that survey is a very interesting mess.
- execs believe their IT doesn't have the skills, training, resources
- execs believe that whether developed in-house or 3rd party, the user experience sucks
- execs say IT, marketing, sales, and support have no idea how to market and support their mobile apps
Like the saying goes - when you point your finger at someone, you've got 3 fingers (thumb doesn't count) pointing back at you.
Just goes to prove what I've always known - execs are high paid but useless.
Marc
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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LOL.
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already posted here[^]
#SupportHeForShe
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I didn't read the article, but I totally agree with the lack of trust in the industry. A job is like being married. A great marriage takes two people that need to communicate with each other. Same for business. The business and tech needs to communicate. A bad exec won't. And a bad tech person won't. Unfortunately there are a lot of people in tech who are in tech due to social anxiety issues. And there ain't go good communication that can be found from that typically.
Remember, businesses have no idea about tech. Zippo. So it's up to us to convey to them accurately what's what and do so in a way that doesn't bore them. Most C-level execs I know don't care about the details, they just want to understand the big picture. And that never gets conveyed.
Just my two cents.
Jeremy Falcon
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It has been my experience that...
You don't trust what you don't understand.
Most execs do not understand IT, therefore, they do not trust IT. This will always be the case.
Simples.
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Well said.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Totally agree. Just to play devil's advocate though I'd say the same is true of tech though with not trusting or understanding the business side.
Jeremy Falcon
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We don't need no stinkin' business side!
Coding is art.
Coding is love.
A pity we waste so much of it on users
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