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So how long until ms puts out an "improved" proprietary broken version?
modified 24-May-18 5:16am.
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IE/Edge, the best browser to download another browser.
Windows, the best OS to download another OS?
What's next, use .NET to download Java?
MS Office to download LibreOffice?
SQL Server to download Oracle? 
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Well, they can run Windows on Linux (Wine), so Nadella must have thought: Then we must run Linux on Windows ....
I really like the way that man thinks: If we make sure they don't need our products anymore, then we win! Just like Windows mobile: You can program it with .Net compact Silverlight WPF Metro Modern UI never mind, here is Xamarin, so you can build for anything but Windows mobile.- Hey why is nobody using Windows mobile anymore?
With a CEO like that, you don't need enemies.
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Quote: What's next, use .NET to download Java?
Now, that would freeze the Universe.
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You'd still be using a Microsoft product so it'll at least freeze your computer 
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Honestly, it reduces friction for me since I can use the same CLI on a client as on any given server, with a better command structure to boot. Why Ubuntu rather than just a BASH for Windows, though, I cannot say. That bit annoys me.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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This app does not work on your device.
My "device" is running Ubuntu 18.04. 
One of my Windows 10 VM's is at 27%, the other did its thing yesterday. Pays to have several.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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OMG. 15 years later -- Bill's experience is prescient of what the experience is like in 2018!
[edit]Actually, after reading the full content of his email, I'm surprised he didn't replace his Windows XP box with an Apple box!  [/edit]
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Marc Clifton wrote: I'm surprised he didn't replace his Windows XP box with an Apple box!
Technology has issues, sure, but why would he purposefully downgrade? 
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It is got much better since... Nowdays Windows installs/updates software on its own, and does the reboot also... Whenever it fits...
I can't see how 6 minutes of update/install process can annoy Bill Gates... The email shows how disconnect he was from the reality of Microsoft while dreaming in his office... As I see it is still the same today...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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("I typed in movie maker. Nothing. So I gave up and sent mail to Amir saying – where is this Moviemaker download? Does it exist? So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated.")
Bill should try Windows 10's Start menu.
I have two machines here sitting side-by-side, with the same build of Windows 10. If I bring up the Start menu on one of them and type in "Programs and features", the control panel applet we all know and love (ahem) shows up. On the next machine, I get "Apps & features", "Add or remove programs" (both of which bring up this Metro-fied abomination that is NOT what I asked for) and "Turn Windows features on or off". Yet if I type in "control" (for control panel), Programs and Features is right there.
It's not a matter of having it learn how I use the start menu or some-such BS (which is a flawed approach anyway), as I invoke it just about as frequently on both machines.
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About two weeks ago I asked your advice on some hardware, mainly two new monitors and a docking station.
You guys gave me some very good tips and recommendations and after taking everything into consideration... I did the complete opposite 
So I got two brand new Dell UtraSharp 25" monitors[^] and connected them with the new Dell D6000 Universal Dock[^].
My old keyboard had a "compatible with Win95" label and PS/2 port and my originally white mouse was a dirty yellowish color, so I decided to get a pretty standard Microsoft wired keyboard and mouse[^] as well.
Everything was plug n play and works like a charm
Funny thing with the monitors, they're 2560 x 1440 and Windows recommends changing font sizes to 125%.
I agree that 100% is a bit small, but at 125% some text got blurry.
The solution is to choose a custom scale and set it at... 125%!
Works like a charm, everything's crispy clear
Now to get twice as much work done!
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Sander Rossel wrote: Now to get twice as much work done!
I'll have to try that at work. Hey manager, if you get me two decent monitors, I can get twice the work done!
Right now we have two crappy monitors, one is a 1280x768 dinosaur, the other a small 1920x1080And by "small", I mean it's physically a small monitor, not the nice big 23" monitors I have at home.
I should stop now, otherwise I'll go on ranting about the archaic i5, 8MB, 5400 RPM disk, crap as well. I have two laptops with better specs!!!
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Marc Clifton wrote: I have two laptops with better specs!!!
I have a calculator with better specs!
I'm sorry, this is no laughing matter... To you
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Marc Clifton wrote: 8MB
Wh... what? I can't think of a single thing in a computer that's only 8MB these days (or even recent-ish past days)
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Marc Clifton wrote: not the nice big 23" monitors I have at home.
Not to throw oil on that fire, but it's been a while I've considered 23" to be anywhere near "big".
My smallest monitors start at 24", and that one looks bigger than it actually is because it's running in portrait mode (which is great for web pages and source code)
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Well done, I have a couple of UltraSharp monitors too, apart from a minor issue with not automatically recognizing the (display)port in use, I'm very pleased with them !
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Those Ultrasharps are very nice. I bought one last year, and I was stunned how clear it was.
One note: if you notice and update freezes or twitchiness, you might need a firmware update. Dell denied there was a problem at first, they have since repented.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I've used that tactic
Customer calls: "Sander, there's a bug in the software."
Me: "Really? I can't imagine our software has any defects..." while quickly doing an update.
Customer: "Yeah really, if I do... Huh, it works now, but it didn't a minute ago!"
Me: "Seems like you've really lost it this time..."
Customer: "Did you just do an update!?"
Me: "You can't prove that "
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That's the same keyboard I ended up with - it's not too bad, is it? Feel is good, and I'm slowly getting used to where the keys are...
I prefer my Logi trackman to those mice though.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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It's layout is closest to the old keyboard I had.
For some reason I do need a little getting used to though.
Probably because I'm now used to my laptop keyboard 
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Those are a good resolution. I like having 1440 lines. I have 1200 at work and it's pretty good but I have 1440 at home. I would probably have gone for the 27s at that resolution just to get the text bigger, although they are twice the price. I would also have looked for some that are cheaper than Dells. 
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