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I only use prayer when I do refactoring; but that's a nice alternative 
I never finish anyth
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I know the feeling, I am settling in for a nice glass* of wine to clear the pain.
* wine bottles are made from glass 
veni bibi saltavi
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Me: Is your back-end programming language based on some industry standard language, or is it something you guys made up on your own?
Instructor: It's a scripting language that's a combination of SQL JavaScript, and other languages. Yes, it's our own language.
F*ckin' perfect...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It's a scripting language that's a combination of SQL JavaScript, and other languages.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly"
The one justifies the other in this case...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I am trying to imagine how that first meeting went.
Let’s take SQL and JavaScript, amalgamate the two, and then add in features from a few more languages, and create this proprietary scripting platform that only our team knows about. Will make hiring devs very easy in future.
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Probably a silly question:
Does it combine the best, or the worst of those languages?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Javascript has a best? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I did say that it's a silly question.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Depends who you ask. Purveyors of ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) and other stronger beverages universally agree the best part is when javascript programmers finish for the day and need to cleanse their minds. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: need to cleanse their minds
The evidence so far is leaning strongly in the direction of "most JS programmers don't have minds"
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Dan Neely wrote: need to cleanse their minds
The evidence so far is leaning strongly in the direction of "most JS programmers don't have minds"
I'm talking about people who have to use JS, not the people who design the language or who use it by choice. For them, we're in complete agreement.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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OriginalGriff wrote: Javascript has a best?
Well, apparently it has a good[^].
/ravi
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Scripting choices are VBScript and JScript...
It's a no-win situation.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I'll be over here in the corner, reloading some ammo, and mumbling a quiet little prayer for your sanity, John...
I'm reminded somewhat of the time General Dynamics asked me to port old software from their own, homegrown language (GDBASIC) to a modern, standard language (hpl). Functions in GDBASIC were numbered, not named, and their parameters were a trade secret to be found on paper hardcopies distributed from an unknown office, if one was lucky enough to be on their list. And hpl was never adopted by anyone for long, because it was written all in lower case, and old punched card programmers couldn't get used to it. I thought I'd died and gone to hell. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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The waste of time and money that results from government software projects is freakin amazing. Millions spent on a project only to have it be abandoned with the most recent change of command.
They've spent 8 billion on a system called AHLTA, and it sucks so bad that it rivals black holes in gravitational pull.
There are repeated attempts to standardize on this system or that system, and the reason it doesn't happen is because some idiot in one of the military services has been sold a bill of goods about its shortcomings, or some congressman wants to get the contract up for re-compete so his butt buddies in his home state can get rich, or whatever under-handed reason you can think of.
We end up with a crippled and thoroughly damaged system with nobody that can support or maintain it, or just when you get a crew trained up to do so, the contract is awarded to another company that may or may not want to retain the tribal knowledge, and even if they do, they try to convince the current crew to take a pay cut in order to stay onboard.
The whole thing is a freakin scam, perpetrated by the big contracting companies to keep the money rolling it at the expense of the American tax payer.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: The whole thing is a freakin scam, perpetrated by the big contracting companies to keep the money rolling it at the expense of the American tax payer.
...so you might as well get your own cut of that...right?
I've always avoided government contracts because of my own personal ethics. That said, presented with the right opportunity, they'd probably be the first thing out the window.
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That brings back memories... I love the sound of taxpayer dollars being flushed down the toilet! It's, in a depressing way, good to know that some things never change.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Agree completely. That is one of the major reasons I looked at what I was doing 8 years ago (after 20 years coding for the Army, Air Force, and Navy) and got into private industry. Not really a better change, but at least I wasn't watching DoD budgets, wondering if I had a job next fiscal year. We generally had a We're fired' party on Sept 30, and a we're hired' party on (or about) Oct 2
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That matches my memories of defense contracting back in the 80's to a T.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Sorry to hear, John.
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Take the beast out for a run on the back country roads with the windows open, crank it up to a marginally unsafe speed and enjoy yourself. After a week of training with no death, destruction and mayhem you deserve a break.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Beast is down for brakes. Upgrading to a set of brembos.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical instruments often goes undetected.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
modified 7-Dec-15 11:38am.
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Especially at the movies where there is a lot of sax and violins.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Too much cymbalism for my taste.
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