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I don't care, I've not seen any bad side effect of pierced ears in children WHEN DONE PROPERLY.
Anyway, just talk about it with your daughter; maybe she will chicken out at the sight of the punch, or will scream out and hate you for the rest of your natural life after she's done with the first ear ...
Also, talk about it with the mother of your little girl.
and if you feel courageous with the Mother In Law and tell her you prefer to wait until your girl ask you about it.
My 2c would be to refuse it as an unasked gift, and wait until she (your girl) ask about it, and then talk about it; go to the mutilation shop and have a look at it and talk about the procedure with the technician.
I would never let a child of mine have a piercing or tattoo.
I fail to see the appeal, myself , of permanent mutilation. Buy her some clip on earrings.
If its coming to be a family argument, it might be easier to tell the MIL that she can have her ears pierced, but to choose appropriate earrings that will match the 'Wiggles' tattoo you're going to get on her forehead.
I'm not worried about my specific circumstance, I am very firmly against the idea, and my wife who is neutral knows this. Our daughter isn't against the idea, but doesn't want it either. Her similar aged cousins are getting done I think.
I posted up to get an idea of the general, and multi-national / cultural, feel for the practice rather than any direct advice.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Time has already told ... Your statement that either you let kids make their own decisions or they will be subservient to all adults is complete hogwash. Kids also need to learn that there are rules - like 'em or not - that need to be followed, especially at the age we are discussing (7 yrs or so) where 'sexual advances of a coworker ' are kind of unlikely to be of concern.
Your statement that either you let kids make their own decisions or they will be
subservient to all adults is complete hogwash
That is taken out of context. You have a proscribed an absolute mandate both in punishment and without expiration. You could make the same pronoucment that a 4 year should be thrown out the door if they refuse to eat their peas one night.
that need to be followed, especially at the age we are discussing (7 yrs or so)
A 7 year old is unlikely to be able to find much less pay for a tat. Conversely your absolute mandate suggests taht if a relative pays for a tat on the 7 year old that the 7 year old will be out the door.
where 'sexual advances of a coworker ' are kind of unlikely to be of concern.
Versus clergy, baby sitters, teachers and relatives, all of who are persons of authority to a 7 year old? And will continue to be so for a 14/15/16 year old which is a much more likely age for one to both be interested in a tat and also be likely to rebel against a parent especially a radicalized one.
I think ear piercing in children is acceptable, but it must be at the request of the child and once it appears they understand what is going on, so probably from about 8 onwards. I know my eldest (8), has pals at school who have already had it done, but she has explicitly said she doesn't want them done, so it clearly not giving in to peer pressure and asking for it just because a.n.other already has them.
I know where you are coming from and could not agree more. This is a controversial subject in a wider context so if we think this type of surgery is OK we should not judge others. The idea that they are our kids (property???) and thus it is alright is an appalling and rather ill considered sentiment.
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
My daughter (now 26 y/o) got her ears pierced at age 2 or 3. It was my wife's decision. I wasn't thrilled but let it go without too much fight. Later when my daughter was approx. 12 she asked if she could get a second set (also in the ear lobe). I refused. She argued. I refused. She argued, I asked her to write up a document with 5 reasons why she wanted it done along with a promise of no further piercings and no tattoos until age 18. She wrote it. We both signed it. She abided by it.
BTW - She's a lawyer now. That was her first contract!
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
In short: you and you alone are the protector/provider for your daughter(S); live each day as such, in love and nurture, with solid confidence and understanding.
From Hebrew/Christian Scripture
If a woman makes a vow to the Lord, and binds herself by some agreement while in her father’s house in her youth, 4 and her father hears her vow and the agreement by which she has bound herself, and her father holds his peace, then all her vows shall stand, and every agreement with which she has bound herself shall stand. 5 But if her father overrules her on the day that he hears, then none of her vows nor her agreements by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the Lord will release her, because her father overruled her.
Because your daughter is not old enough to understand what making a vow is, my council from one father to another father (that being you): Stand your ground.
You have final authoritative declaration in your house, along with all responsibilities that comes with that authority.
Certainly, be polite in responding back with kindness, yet with a resounding "no" (if that be your choice).
Last night, good old Auntie aired a program by Top Gear's James May about his team's attempt to fly an engine-less model airplane. It's a continuation of his Toy Story series. Originally, they wanted to release it above Dover and let it fly to France but as usual, the bloody French threw their arms up in the air (not for the first time was such a symbol of surrender exhibited) and opposed the BBC's intentions. Which is damned rich coming from a country who has forgotten its history. Yes, they might be harbouring eternal pain over the Nile, Trafalgar, and Waterloo, but could they not have obliged Auntie with a token of gratitude for their liberation in WW2?
So Auntie and May changed the route and the weather-window was against them as was the expense of paying for helicopters and support teams. This too is rich but this time it was the BBC's failure. Having thrown £450,000 at the disgraced Directory-General, George Entwhistle, whose term in office lasted less than 60 days. The BBC could find the money to pay that pratt but seemingly had nothing left for the making of an excellent program proving again the trustees have the wrong priorities.
The next day the weather opened and it was all systems go for the launch of the model plane. I'll let those of you who haven't seen it have something to look forward to. May's narration was delightful and in a funny way it was an edge-of-the-seat program by an organisation that has no equal in the world. It was original programming at its best. Auntie excelled herself this time. Despite all the recent problems she's faced this simple concept of a program goes a long way to righting her recent ills.
Good old Auntie. Thanks also to James May for such an excellent program.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
Indeed - despite a total absence of publicity, I noticed it and enjoyed it very much. I was particularly impressed with the software - "It'll just work" - and in deed it did, after a brief detour...probably GPS related.
May does some good programs in his own quiet way - unlike Hamster who appears to be trying to take over from Carol Vorderman as the only person allowed to be on TV regardless of the program quality...
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
Having thrown £450,000 at the disgraced honoured the contract of Directory-General, George Entwhistle, whose term in office lasted less than 60 days was told to resign in an attempt to take the blame with him when most of what was wrong was many, many, many years before he got near the job in order to avoid any constructive dismissal case costing them far more.
I switched on just after the launch of the first attempt. It was excellent.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.