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Mrs and I just got back a short time ago from our second COVID vaccinations. Two different locations, two different vaccines and over two hours travel each way.
Now, possible side effects (if we already had a strong response to first shot) and two weeks induction period and, well, there's family to see alive and in person. Grandchildren to hold.
Still some cautions are in order but the draconian measures can be put aside.
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Well worth the effort, I am sure. Wife got her second last Thurs, mine was 3 weeks ago. Will be able to have a full blown visit with the kids in a couple of weeks. Probably be skittish for a few more weeks.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Well, if you expected perfection in the vaccine, even if it had the five-year period to check for long-term effects and such, you'll never be satisfied.
Especially if you nit-pick the words. And, in fact, by implication, modify the intent of the statement.
The vaccine protects the vaccinated by both preventing the disease, but even more importantly, by all but eliminating the serious illness levels. For me, all along that's what I'd hoped for. An effective treatment is the most valuable commodity. Even the lesser-effective vaccines (J&J, AstraZeneca) virtually eliminate the most lethal aspects of the disease. The disease that some called a hoax, and little more than the flu . . .
Faucci, in fact, presents things very much as he should - this is a story still unfolding. Whilst lives are being snuffed out on the millions-scale, a certain amount of proactivity (as in caution) is necessary to hopefully stay ahead of the monster.
I've watched the denial of this horrid reality take the form of "they had pre-existing conditions - that's what killed them". Yeah - like a person with a kidney disease being hit by a car - they, too, had a per-existing condition. Others put the economy ahead of their (and especially, other people's) lives. And you look for inconsistencies in nuance as proof of . . . well . . . what?
Now, getting directly back to your comment (aside from your video): as of now, it's not full understood if a fully vaccinated person can shed active virus should they get the disease (remember, 95% is not 100%). So - maybe I'll get it and maybe be shedding it - but if wearing a masks and keeping my distance when amongst my fellow mortals may save them some long-term misery, or even their life, I can handle the inconvenience.
You're looking for every opportunity to discredit those willing to be cautious - a sad commentary of our times that thoughtfulness and insight are nuanced out of existence by, lets face it, politics.
The political view of a corpse is, I suspect, very much akin to "OH SH!T !".
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There is plenty of politics to go around on both sides of this issue. As evidence, I cite your diatribe and posturing.
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... but even I can tell the difference between a wolf and a Rottweiler[^]  
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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modified 5hrs 15mins ago.
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Check my profile: I have difficulty spelling the word "the" never mind two syllables ...
Fixed. 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Chinese QA/QC - what's the surprise here? I mean, at least it wasn't a stuffed Panda.
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I guess he identifies as a woof 
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Wolves don't do woof. They howl, but don't bark. You know the sound if you hear it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Even a husky is a far cry from a wolf.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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As we used to say: "close enough for government work"
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Do facebooking librarians take a lot of shelfies?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Sure!
Just like the little folks who work for Santa take a lot of elfies.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Because they're Shelfish or because they eat Shelfish?
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Only if they're really stacked.
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Librarians never Ape the general public. They are Unseen and unheard.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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And keep cool down in the erotic magic book collection. 
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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To borrow a fine thought from the OP by OG, they always prefer binding arbitration for their disputes, a signature characteristic.
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No, facebooking librarians shelf a lot of faces
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Late last week I lost my youngest brother to a severe heart attack. Because he lived 7,000 miles away in Africa, I won't even be able to attend the funeral. He was only 70 years old. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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There are never good words to say at a time like this ... but it's only made worse by not being able to attend the funeral. Our sincere condolences to you and yours, and to his family
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Thanks!
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