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Well, 3 hours ago I signed a contract with another company, my second employer ever. Do you want to know how long did it take?
1 hour in November 2017, after a while they said I was interesting but they had no openings for me;
2 hours in February 2018, I renounced the possibility because I did not like the job offered;
1 hour in July 2018 to organize the meeting after my honeymoon, in September;
1 hour in August 2018 to explore the offering with the company;
2 hours in September 2018 to speak to the customer to see if I was ok for them;
3 hours to discuss salary and expenses (I'll have to drive a lot more than now, with car consumptino and expenses I do not meet, it's about 6k/year of new expenses)
1.5 hours today to explore every comma of the contract and iron out the last details.
I see you remember quite well the situation at my current (well, former) workplace
IT policies depend from the customer, some of them are Defense so I wouldn't bet on it, but mostly it should be normal. Managers, they've been exceedingly present up to now, I almost refused them a couple of days ago and two of them, separatedly, called me to change my mind (and I gained some more €€ in the process).
All the people I met who work there are satisfied and relaxed, so it's either a relaxed workplace or they're all Zen masters in disguise as engineers.
I'd only be curious to see if the people from the companies are the respective department managers, or (my expectation) some mug from HR with a check list of skills
(... the usual crap, "do you know X?" "yeah I know that, in fact just finished a job in X version 7.1.2." "have you used version 7.1.3?" "No, mine was v 7.1.2, but they are the same." HR person, "OK, sounds really good, we will let you know..." strikes a line through name ... "next please!")
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
Sorry about that, but it's so quiet in here, and our new friend seems to be temporarily constipated...
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