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Maybe that's a better idea than I had - I just requested they send me the perforations and an installation manual.
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First of all, doesn't COBOL begin with "C" - so what's the problem?
Begs another question (and gives a job to Chris):
Note that items on the menu and price (RM). OK - something tells me that despite the account's designation this is not from the US. Perhaps use the IP's location to assign the default country?
Why do I keep going to this subject (i.e., correct designation) ? Many years ago - my first time traveling abroad, in fact, I fell in with some traveling companions. One Canadian, one a Scotsman. Besides learning that the Scotsman's version of English needed to be repeated in English order for non-native speaker to understand him, I observed that either or both of them would often where t-shirts and such with US flags and other logos on them and it was at those times they became particularly rude and poorly behaved. Now it may be wearing the garments was the cause, but the bad behavior was improperly attributed to US student/traveler behavior. Similarly, for better or worse, it would be nice to attribute posts to the appropriate source.
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Very few new members take the trouble to select their country of origin when creating their accounts. They are all in too much of a hurry to type their homework question and get back to their proper day job of staring vacantly into space.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: get back to their proper day job of staring vacantly into sp
Alas ! (+)
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Staring vacantly into sp? What's that? A sell phone? Sacepook? Spwitter?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I think you will find that most of the old COBOL programmers are retiring or dying out which leaves a rather large code base of legacy systems (usually bank and government) systems that still have to be maintained and that people need to be trained to do such work.
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As much as we disparage vast swaths of our profession, this indicates that our products' longevity sometimes surpasses that of many other industries.
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Regrettably, only because nobody but the guy who wrote them understands them enough to change it ...
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Actually, adding capabilities to existing products is something that we probably do better than any other industry. Not only that, we're humble, because we still kick ourselves for being lousy at it. 
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I, very recently, had to do some COBOL. At first it was just to read it and work out what it was doing so that the algorithm could be duplicated in out new C# system. However that led to some fixes being needed in the COBOL itself (running on a mainframe, remember those?).
Luckily I was old enough to have those skills - although not fresh, not too stale!
Yes, I currently work for the government.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Quote: Yes, I currently work for the government.
Don't expect any sympathy on this forum.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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No, it's because of it's throughput. Mostly SORT and MERGE and big iron; no amateur LINQ / SQL and 3rd party libraries to mess things up.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Quote: our products' longevity sometimes surpasses that of many other industries.
And so it should be. No one would expect Brooklyn Bridge[^] to be torn down just because it is old.
Unfortunately here in Montreal a much newer bridge[^] had to be replaced just because its maintenance was neglected. Sounds too much like the story of many software projects I've seen.
Mircea
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What teenager gets out of bed in the morning and thinks "I know! I'll learn a language that they stopped writing new apps in before my mother was born and that will only run on ancient hardware! I'll get a job maintaining stuff nobody understand, including me!"
Most of 'em spend half the morning getting up, farting, scratching their testicles (or equivelant), and panicing over what to change their farcebook status to!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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A friend came out of retirement 3 time to accept 1 year COBOL contracts, as they money they were tossing at him was too good to pass up. Plus he was bored.
When serious throughput is required, our modern languages miss the mark, sometimes by a lot. Plus replacing the infrastructure is far too costly. Learning COBOL today is not a bad choice, although I'd learn Java as well, as I see a fair amount of Java running on mainframes.
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It appears that the OP really does want a COBOL solution. Either that or he has no idea what C syntax looks like. 
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Actually this is pretty good. As the number of qualified COBOL developers is diminishing ( sorry guys, but that is just life ) they need more younger people to replace them. Actually, I am looking forward to do some 'C' development work after I retire in about 7 years or so. Big Dollars/Euros to keep ancient systems up and running because by then most youngsters won't have a clue as to what 'C' is all about.
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I'd love to do the same, as a hobby, in Assembly language. Over 30 years later, I'm still astounded at what I could make a lousy '286 or '386 do. They don't write them that way, any more. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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fd9750 wrote: ( sorry guys, but that is just life )
Well, to be precise, it's not-life. But yeah.
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Of course you are 100% right but then again life and the inevitable end of it is unavoidable 
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There's still a huge amount of COBOL code running everything from banking to government to utilities to basically any industry that computerized early. Those programmers are retiring and in many cases, dead. COBOL is coming back into style as a result and COBOL jobs are some of the highest paying programming jobs available.
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I remember near the start of the pandemic, some state in the USA had their ancient, insufficiently maintained, Cobol-based unemployment claim system fall over and they begged Cobol experts to come and fix it for free.
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Something Not to do in the wind[^]
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