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Has anyone seen this?
Neutralinojs vs Electron vs Nw.js - see the results[^]
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Isn't it a tiny uncharged part of an Italian?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: uncharged part of an Italian
It's entirely theoretical; Italians are fully-charged at all times. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I know less about that stuff than the back end of a donkey, but the numbers look impressive. I'm shocked that anyone doing this stuff cares about performance. Sometimes I think the worst thing that happened to our industry was the availability of MIPS, GBs, and TBs out the yin-yang.
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I started programming when performance was highly valued, and resources were scarce. I still try to code as if both of those things were still in play.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Where do we put questions about Electron development?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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In Nuclear Physics? Next to proton, neutron and moron??
Ducks and hides on the way to get the coat
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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You are going to need more than your coat, once the J.S.O.P 3000 has been activated.
Just saying...
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THAT finally explains why there are so many morons!
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Not to forget the bozon, the clown particle.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I'm not positive that I know.
I hate to be negative about things, but in this case I'd be charged if I answered.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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The problem I'm having is that it's essentially a web site that runs on the desktop.
I'm not really sure how I feel about it because it's all javascript, and I freakin' hate javascript.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I can understand that.
If it quarks like a duck, it's probably a water fowl - and JS is particularly fowl.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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What sparked your interest? You finally got an electric car now? 
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I'm toying with the idea of re-writing my reputionator app, and was thinking a cross-platform approach would be cool. However, after looking at the size of the disk footprint (over 50mb), i'm having 2nd thoughts.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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50Mb is nothing these days - it's only a 1.14m stack of floppy disks ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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You can find some alternatives here: tools-for-building-cross-platform-desktop-apps-with-web-technologies[^]
What I have heard is that besides the large footprint, it is also very difficult to write good behaving applications in Electron, so I would not recommend it for any complex application unless you have a team of developers behind you that can solve all the issues.
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I am a team of 1.
Ever since the "cross-platform" idea was invented, it's been rediscovered time-and-again, that the juice ain't worth the squeeze, and targeting one platform is always the best idea. That was back in the mid-80's.
35 years later, nothing has really changed. And that's sad.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've been investigating Electron for an app I want to rewrite but I got put on hold when I read an article ?somewhere? on uSofts new framework to be released with .NET 6. Microsoft unveils .NET MAUI for cross-platform apps | InfoWorld[^].
I don't know if it will be something I can use or not, but I'm too busy right now anyway.
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It's bad enough that multithreaded code is nondeterministic.
I propose that it is also meta-nondeterministic: You can not even count on it to be non-deterministic
When you need it to be unpredictable, the scheduler will inexplicably run your timeslices the exact same way, even when threads are executing on different cores, and even reboot to reboot.
I'm stuck on creating an *example* simply because I cannot create a situation wherein two secondary threads appear to be in competition (with the third thread being the main application thread) on a dual core ESP32 running FreeRTOS. I can do it where one thread is in competition with the primary thread, but it's as if the scheduler is just a dog when it comes to scheduling between two threads on the same core or something. Grrr.
It's bizarre.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Threads are like fireflies. They tend to synchronize into repeated patterns. 
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Unless you need them to. 
Real programmers use butterflies
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I thought that was women and their...never mind.
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