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So yesterday I go up in the morning to find that I was getting an Authentication Error on my home Wifi. Sure enough, my password that I had for at least 2 years didn't work.
I called up my ISP which rhymes with Denture-y Fink. To make a long story short, they changed something and now they do not allow spaces to be in a password phrase. They had to reset my password because I couldn't get in with my disallowed passwords any more.
My question to you who deal with security is, do you restrict what characters can be in a password? and why?
Thanks for letting me gripe.
Brent
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Yes, but not for security, for usability.
There is nothing worse than a user raising a support issue because their "password doesn't work". 99% of the time they just don't remember it.
Allowing a password to have spaces is more prone to user error, especially when it starts or ends with a space. So I can see why they might not want to allow spaces.
But don't go too far... one site I used recently doesn't allow special characters at all! Only letters or numbers, so this means your password cannot be as complex as you might want it to be (which is definitely a security concern).
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I have found a several places don't allow you to end the password with a number which increases when reset Password01, becomes Password02 etc. back to the Dilbert Cartoon where you have to have squirrel noises in your password...
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I'd agree - no spaces, but any other printable character in the Unicode set is fine (including hieroglyphs, squirrel noises, and the blood of a virgin (only available in the "Cthulhu" font).)
Only spaces and control codes are forbidden.
What annoys me more is people who decide that only "." and a single "@" is allowed in email addresses. Domains can legitimately contain "-", and mine does. Some sites just puke up at the sight of one ... which means a trip to mailinator to sign up (then change the email address and it generally works)
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A study was done that claims a 3-word password is MORE secure than the arbitrary password rules used by 99% of the business entities out there because it's harder to use brute force them.
A space is a valid character and should not be disallowed.
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I had one some years ago: a friends mother had signed up with a password she could remember - her daughter's first pet, a cat called "PEPSI". And this worked for ages, until the company was bought out by one with more restrictive passwords. When she replaced the computer, she couldn't sign in to her email any more because the password was wrong. And she couldn't change it because they required her old password to set a new one and that wasn't valid under their new rules ... It took some long drawn out phone conversations to sort that one out.
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I would be annoyed to have such a limitation. Passwords shouldn't be stored in clear text in the first place anyway, but rather salted and hashed, so I don't see any reason to limit the character set (except maybe for control characters).
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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My ISP gives you an IP address with a password (which YOU can change). When you point your browser to the IP address, You enter a page where you can configure many of the router parameters. (Dangerous in some hands! ) You have full control of the router and WiFi passwords. Nice (for me, at least.) 
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"Due to a mix up alarm made my breakfast sweeter" (9)
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MARMELADE!
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you won't leave me any chance to win
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Oh c**k.
I read it, thought "Marmalade" and posted instinctively.
I could be wrong, though?
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I just looked, and in fact I am wrong - over to you, if you are quick!
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Nah, I don't do drugs ...
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...anymore?
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Indeedy!
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Well - somebody cannot spell so you are in with a chance...
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MARMALADE ?
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Yes please, I am quite peckish and it would make a nice brunch.
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Yay!
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The way GRIFF wrote it is the way we Dutch write it. So I thought it was done....
Tomorrow 'kun je de borst nat maken' (Dutch saying: You have to make your chest wet -> hard times ahead) you have to find out artist and songtitle!
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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@DuncanEdwardsJones
Where's the CCC?
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