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I agree 100%.
Also, I recently did a build that included AMD AMD RYZEN 5 2600X (12Core) and an NVidia card and 16GB ram, with Gigabyte M/B for about $500 and I'm running Ubuntu (dual boot with Windows, but never boot windows really) and the machine is blazing fast even doing Android dev with emulators running and Android Studio etc.
I think my main reason for the Intel preference comes from the bad old days of AMD being behind in lithographic tech, and their chips running hotter and sucking more juice as a result. Or before that when their FP processing sucked.
Of course, that's all in the past (I think?)
But I've followed Intel CPUs over AMD because of it, and I just have a good feel for what a good Intel is vs a bad one, and I don't have the same feel for AMD - at least not yet. So I don't really know what I'm buying. How much cache is enough for an AMD 12core? for example. I can figure out baselines for intel's chips based on past experience and review knowledge i've accrued at say overclock.net. I haven't done that same legwork on AMD over the years so their lineup is largely opaque to me.
And maybe it's time i changed that. I'll give the ryzens a look.
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I don't like investing big money in laptops. I've had too many stolen, dropped or otherwise just broken down from wear and general use (usually a screen hinge and the display goes with it, or the power cable connecter inside the machine dies)
It's much easier to repair and upgrade a desktop.
I usually try to limit laptop purchases to $800 tops.
You can get an extended warranty and get even replacements in case of accident at not much money...
I buy a new laptop each 4 years +/-.
Usually Lenovo T series Signature edition... Currently I have a T460s. They have all the usual ports at real size (important when you must interface robots/plc...), are slim and powerful. and of course with all the bells and whistles in the warranty... 5 years extended warranty with one guy at your door in 24 hours if you call them in any country.
Of course all with a dock station for programming at the office.
I guess my next one will be T500s or TWhateverTheyNameItNexts
This is true, but with the performance available today, I'd take a hard look at just running inside a VM (unless you are gaming). For development, you just can't tell the difference. When you replace the base hardware, you copy the VM(s) and boom, back in business.
Just a thought.
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Generally I agree, although it depends on the barebones system - most are bargain basement but some are just builder systems that are intended for people like me. Again, I like to shop around after having a good idea of what i want.
I've seen an FSB get melted on a cheap motherboard so i hear you.
I have found i7-9750H to be fine for development with 6 cores (12 hyper-threaded). I have 32GB RAM and 512GB nvme m.2 ssd and can choose between intel integrated gfx or NVidia. This is in a laptop running linux that cost about $1800. Something similar in a desktop could probably be built for <$1000 excluding NVidia gfx, not including monitors, just the cpu box and internals.
I no longer run VMs, but I used to some time ago, and this config should do fine...currently use Docker for multi-machine systems development.
When I start the task manager it shows 8 thread (4 cores).
That all being said, I wanted to get an i7 gamer's system (for a little less $) but my idea was to have easily available components (DDR4, standard socket, etc.) so upgrades and repairs would be available and cheap for years to come.
I've been an Intel fan-boy for years, but with what AMD is doing with the Ryzen stuff, now's a good time to swap-over. Had it not been for some Ryzen issues with the Vive VR setup, I'd probably have AMD'd earlier. With today's CPU selection, you really can't go wrong with either, but AMD is quickly feeling like the more cost-efficient option. As for GPU, of course it should be a NVidia. I personally use the gtx1060, and it's been plenty for my needs.
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