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I don't like investing big money in laptops. I've had too many stolen, dropped or otherwise just broken down from wear and general use (usually a screen hinge and the display goes with it, or the power cable connecter inside the machine dies)
It's much easier to repair and upgrade a desktop.
I usually try to limit laptop purchases to $800 tops.
You can get an extended warranty and get even replacements in case of accident at not much money...
I buy a new laptop each 4 years +/-.
Usually Lenovo T series Signature edition... Currently I have a T460s. They have all the usual ports at real size (important when you must interface robots/plc...), are slim and powerful. and of course with all the bells and whistles in the warranty... 5 years extended warranty with one guy at your door in 24 hours if you call them in any country.
Of course all with a dock station for programming at the office.
I guess my next one will be T500s or TWhateverTheyNameItNexts
This is true, but with the performance available today, I'd take a hard look at just running inside a VM (unless you are gaming). For development, you just can't tell the difference. When you replace the base hardware, you copy the VM(s) and boom, back in business.
Just a thought.
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Generally I agree, although it depends on the barebones system - most are bargain basement but some are just builder systems that are intended for people like me. Again, I like to shop around after having a good idea of what i want.
I've seen an FSB get melted on a cheap motherboard so i hear you.
I have found i7-9750H to be fine for development with 6 cores (12 hyper-threaded). I have 32GB RAM and 512GB nvme m.2 ssd and can choose between intel integrated gfx or NVidia. This is in a laptop running linux that cost about $1800. Something similar in a desktop could probably be built for <$1000 excluding NVidia gfx, not including monitors, just the cpu box and internals.
I no longer run VMs, but I used to some time ago, and this config should do fine...currently use Docker for multi-machine systems development.
When I start the task manager it shows 8 thread (4 cores).
That all being said, I wanted to get an i7 gamer's system (for a little less $) but my idea was to have easily available components (DDR4, standard socket, etc.) so upgrades and repairs would be available and cheap for years to come.
I've been an Intel fan-boy for years, but with what AMD is doing with the Ryzen stuff, now's a good time to swap-over. Had it not been for some Ryzen issues with the Vive VR setup, I'd probably have AMD'd earlier. With today's CPU selection, you really can't go wrong with either, but AMD is quickly feeling like the more cost-efficient option. As for GPU, of course it should be a NVidia. I personally use the gtx1060, and it's been plenty for my needs.
You'll be doing plenty good with any i7 that's being sold in stores today as brand new. An i9 will get you future-proofed for a while longer still.
I can't even remember how old my i7-4820K is, since it's been a few years--it's only 4 cores (+ hyperthreading), but it's plenty fast for my use - with 64GB of RAM, right now I have 8 VMs running simultaneously 24/7 (sometimes more), with memory allocated to each varying anywhere between 1.5 and 8GB. Get big, fat SSDs to host your VMs. I started off with a pair of 512GB, and have since added a single 2TB (not including the boot drive).
Before that, I was using an i7-2600K, and the main reason I moved away from it is that I wanted to repurpose it as my gaming box (still in use today) and 32GB wasn't enough for the number of VMs I wanted to run side-by-side. That was otherwise also plenty fast. And of course now that my main VM host has 64GB, I'd really rather have it run with 128...but those boards were few and far in-between back when I purchased it.
But I wouldn't settle for anything less than an i7 to host VMs. I have an i5-based NUC with 32GB of RAM, and when it's running more than 4 VMs at once, they all start to feel sluggish. This is where an i7 (or better) really makes a difference, IMO.
I am a total AMD fan so, naturally, I would advocate their CPUs. I have a bit of a bias against their video cards though because of previous bad experiences with them.
Anyway, I went to newegg and configured a system and saved it as a wish list. It has a 2060 video card just in case you might want to experiment with ray tracing. If that holds no interest to you then you can save a bit of money with a less expensive card. As it is, it comes in at $1820. Here's a link : wishlist system[^]. If nothing else, it's something to consider. Have Fun.
-edit- That has a 2TB M.2 drive, 32GB RAM, and a 750W PSU. Those can likely be scaled back if you prefer and/or want to save some money for a really nice monitor(s).
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