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I have a very, very good friend who works in the Bureau of Statistics back home. They don't give two hoots about you personally (no offense intended) but they need to see the trends. Canada removed the long form a couple of years ago and is now paying the price of trying to pilot the ship half blind. It's been a case study in Australia as to what not to do.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
Aside from being illegal, ignoring it is, in the aggregate, a loss to one's community at all levels. Population based resources will be short-changed due to your not being counted
Amen. So, so important. Annoying, sure. Misguided, sometimes. But without a doubt incredibly important.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
In practical terms, even without my cooperation, I doubt they'd ask for something Google didn't already know
Not to even get started on what your credit card company knows about you.
13 U.S. Code § 221 but the 1984 Sentencing Reform Act increased the penalties for refusal to answer or purposefully answering falsely to a $5000 minimum (and still up to 60 days in jail). Now, realistically, unless the Census Bureau shows up at your house and you still refuse to answer, I highly doubt this would be enforced.
The data collected is used for all sort of important issues. Not only statistically but to determine where and what resources are required in your area, (schooling, hospitals etc) so it may well feel intrusive, but it is ultimately used for your benefit, so suck it up and be a big boy an fill it in properly.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
All you have to specify is how many people live at the address. Nothing else is required.
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In Norway, population information has "for ages" been continously updated in electronic registers. Every childbirth is reported, and if you haven't registred a name for the kid within a certain period, you receive a reminder from the register that you must file a name for the baby.
Other registers are going all digital as well. About fifteen years ago, I was stopped in a routine check for drunk driving (not because my driving was dubious; it was a general screening), and it took me a few seconds to dig up my driver's license. Before I found it, the police officer told me: "Don't worry; we've got it here, over the radio. Everything OK". Today, you don't need a physical driver's license at all.
It is the same with lots of other public archives (and private/commercial ones as well). I am not perfectly happy with it; it makes us very dependent on network techology being 100% stable. And datacenter technology. Besides, some excuses for it are questionable from a privacy point of view: E.g. the Norwegian state provides some state support for religious coommunities based on their membership count. Churches were required to submit membership lists electronically, and there were cases of people requesting support in up to five different churches! I very strongly question the very idea of the state supporting religious societies (it can only be understood because we had a tax financed 'state church' up until a few years ago), and the authorities demand for electronic lists did reveal what could certainly be called fraud. But my real worry is thinking of how the authorities in central Europe in the late 1930s could have used such a register. Or some future power may use it.
We have, maybe for nostalgic/romantic reasons, retained some "census-like" activities: It is more like a nationwide gallup poll. Once every ten years, they select some aspect they would like to know more about. Like, "The official register tells that you are living here - but are you living most of your life somewhere else, e.g. because you are a student or commuter?"
The census is all like "non-essential information", "things we are curious about". I do not know about US cencuses, but I suspect that is to a far greater degree is a real collection of basic information about the population, because the authorities do not know.
I think that there is a lot of information about me that is nobody's business - not even the the authorities. But I cannot keep secret where I live, how may kids I have, and how old I am. The authorities must have that information, e.g. to pay me my old age pension when that day comes. Why should they have me report it every ten years? They might just as well keep an always-updated archive of it. Then we don't 'need' the census.
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