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Having seen the way my 3-year old grandson plays with any family member's mobile phone, and in the past my granddaughter on some Disney online game, I totally agree. Children have no idea what's going on in these devices, or the costs associated with them.
Eight year old's should not have an iPad, iPhone, etc etc etc. In my ludite strong opinion, anyone under 13 shouldn't.
They should be out playing, or reading, or doing something that properly develops their minds and souls. For those of you old enough, I'm sure you can remember occupying yourself with all sorts of fun things that didn't involve staring mindlessly at a screen and clicking on things with your thumbs.
The fault here lies in the broader scope of our society in general and the bullshit that we call social media, entertainment, and so forth, that we have been led to believe is good for our children and has some actual value as an adult.
And don't give me this bullshit that they need a head start in today's world. I didn't touch a computer until 7th grade, and it was a teletype machine that saved programs to tape - punch tape!!!
I am from the generation who went outside to play.
Luckily I had my own NES back then, and a little later I got my own PC with games such as Age of Empires and The Curse of Monkey Island
I had friends who had limited computer time, like an hour or two a day, I never understood why.
I have a cousin who is the same, but his sister still likes to go outside.
Maybe the "problem" is that not everyone likes to go outside and do stupid stuff like run after a ball and be social
While I agree with your overall sentiment that nobody under 13 should have an iDevice, need I remind anyone that the previous generation was also accused of using television as a babysitter. Or a substitute for actual parenting.
I totally agree also with the idea that they "should be out playing". George Carlin had a whole bit about going out and playing with a stick.
But no, today, everybody still outside is a child kidnapper, a murderer or a Catholic priest.
I understand where that comes from, and while I agree in principle, reality looks different today.
My son was the second last one to get a phone in his class, and he was always sitting at home doing nothing productive. And when asked why, it was always because he didn't know what the others were up to.
Strange answer! Right?
I finally realized that he was outside the loop.
He has a phone now, often out playing. Kids nowadays communicate using messages.
I would suspect the parents did not set up a fingerprint authorisation and the kid only had to set a new finger print rather than change an existing one - it is still a flaw in the apple system and unconscionable actions by the app designer to accept such volume from a rugrat.
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Ah yes, modern society where nothing you do is your responsibility, everything bad that happens is the fault of someone else and everyone else has a duty to ensure you face no consequences for your actions.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that designing games to appeal to the vulnerable - and children are that - is much the same as charging 4000% APR on a "pay day loan" designed to scrape the last vestiges of money away from the poor. It's immoral, unethical, and downright reprehensible.
Yes, the kid is to blame, as is the mother, as (perhaps) is iCompany for allowing a security flaw like that to be possible (assuming mummy is telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, which I doubt), as is the credit card company. But the developers shoulder the main blame for deliberately crafting a game to do just that.
And I thought EA was bad with their DLC model ...
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"It was hard to be too angry with her because she didn't really know what she was doing and she didn't understand.
"We are really angry, but she is innocent. She said she thought it was free.
"She does look sorry. She looked white when we spoke to her about it and she started crying.
Oh, she looks sorry. I guess that makes it alright.
Without getting into the technical details...she managed to reset the payment settings. She must've known something or she wouldn't have done that.
Her iPad has been confiscated and she has been banned from using iTunes games as punishment.
What about paying back the money? Clearly the parents are going to have to pay back the debt, but the kid needs to pay back the amount to her parents. She's 8--she's going to need to do chores for a long, long time to come. But she shouldn't be let off the hook. (No, I don't have kids. Yes, that's exactly what I'd be doing.)
"However, we empathise with Ms Phillips' situation, so we have made arrangements not to charge any interest on the transactions.
How benevolent of the credit card company.
I thought it must have been fraud at first. But then I saw the transactions were all from Apple and I just thought 'oh my god'.