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I think you are lucky they only sold a product with bugs... Customer - depending on the actual use - may live around those bugs...
I had several case they sold plans on paper... And then notified me that the feature should have been delivered yesterday...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
God is an engineer, he made all good things - with bugs.
The devil is in sales, requires money to get into the state park.
And runs a gift shop outside the gate that sells bug spray at elevated margins.
Bless sales, they have no brains but the gift of gab and get commission on sales and find it just fine to lie. They have a clear conscious because heck, they didn't make the thing. And in a matter of seconds could be selling something else somewhere else if this one doesn't fly. These people are both a dime a dozen but truly good ones are hard to acquire.
Engineering knows absolutely it's a cobbled together POS. - For Pete's sake, don't let em talk to anyone, they'll bring us all down! And if this doesn't fly the poor old sod has to go sell himself to another company without the good looks and gift of bs trying to sell his skills to someone who might not be an engineer.
"Bless sales, they have no brains but the gift of gab..."
Well, after some 20+ years in the field I'm pretty much convinced that most (better) sales are savvy people, at least in managing their own lives.
They don't have a very complex job, they mostly get rewarded very well for selling some stuff, better than the ones building that stuff in the first place, even if the sales person might not even know the tiniest thing about the product they're selling (sometimes).
They can go out and have dinners with people, play some tennis, visit parties,... and it's all part of working hours, since you're relationship-building.
They grow a really nice (social) network which makes them more and more valuable for future projects/employers, which is the counterpart of the engineer that needs to keep on top of new technologies, investing lots of personal time, just to stay relevant.
Sales get the nicer cars, the better paychecks, the nicer office desk (and office chicks ), most of the kudos when a project is delivered successfully...
Have seen this happening like ALL of the times in my previous jobs.
Who is the smarter guy?
Me working and learning like crazy, conceiving from scratch the products that companies are selling, for a decent income, but not one that'll ever make me wealthy, or the sales guy, living a pretty relaxed and social life, getting a nice base salary, generous commission and gains 'expertise and relevancy' without consciously investing time or effort in it?
I actually knew a sales guy which was very good at selling (himself).
So my boss hired the guy as the one who was going to generate lots of sales for our company.
After two years, after first being promoted to sales manager (of 2 junior sales), he was let go.
He didn't sell one(!!!) license of the product, nothing at all.
But in those two years, he made more money than me and most of my fellow engineers would make in 10 years of hard work.
I got to hear that two weeks after that he already found another victim where he exactly did the same thing.
In the meantime he can add those former employers onto his CV, since he did work there, building a nice resume, making his profile even more appealing to other companies. And since they'll only know that he's full of sh*t after a year or two/three, he will have made some easy money, expanded his network and CV making it easier to reel in some even bigger fish, increasing his rate.
In the 1980s I worked for a company that built robots and they used Gates & Ballmer's BASIC to run the thing. One guy had printed the whole thing out and it was a stack of fan-folded paper over a foot high. We were finding bugs fairly often, most of which were introduced by us. It was actually fairly handy to have an embedded BASIC interpreter available. Performance could have been better but you really can't/couldn't expect much out of an 8086+8087.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
My personal reason (as an engineer) why I can't sell stuff is because I factually point out the advantages of my creation. I for the life of me can't wow people with buzzwords, flashy animations and whatever else is used to sell stuff.
I see Nadella as merely a follower to the two biggies, who ruled the planet during those times.
Nadella is more of a cloud guy, though he was part of early Windows-NT development team.
I guess Azure has been doing reasonably well.
So the courage to release stuff like Windows ME, The award goes to...The Gates & Ballmer.
Nadella's an engineer, but it's unfortunate he's all about Azure--but I can't blame him for that since it's doing extremely well.
Ballmer was purely a salesguy, and look at what MS's stocks had been going during his decade (hint: nowhere).
I just wish Nadella brought back to Windows the importance that Gates gave it. Nadella made it clear the platform is no longer important, and they'll go wherever their customers are (paraphrasing, but that's very much what he thinks). That's why we now have things like Office on Android.
It's not even a valid CCC because the noun shorts is plural only. The plural form of shorts is also shorts. If you would have used the correct definition it would have been solved. Also... before is a container indicator.
Yes, it's usually shorts, but I've also heard the singular to emphasize a single pair. But grass, short was meant as the definition, with short being more of a bonus.
What would you have considered to be the "correct definition"? I didn't realize that before had to be a container indicator. If you can point me to a site that describes these conventions, I'll read it.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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