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Having fiddeled with Java (specifically JavaFX) for a few weeks, yesterday I ran into a problem that I just could not solve, regarding signaling between threads. I checked dozens of suggestions by Google that just did not pan out. So I took a deep breath, opened a Stack Overflow account and posted the question there. Horrors! A CP member asking questions on SO? Stone the heretic!
However, within an hour a *real* Java expert posted a complete mini-project showing how my problem can be solved. I was very impressed, since he obviously wrote the mini project in response to my question.
My first question was marked as a duplicate. It wasn't; I even linked to the original question, and explained how my situation was different. My question remained closed, and no one could provide an answer even if they wanted to.
My second question, submitted a couple of years later, was summarily deleted with no answers. I received an email stating my account was blocked for submitting useless or irrelevant questions.
It's a different crowd on there for sure. Good luck posting questions from a newly created account; if they accept it at all, your question has to be really unique, and the moderators have to feel like it's relevant.
I suppose that's why "copy and paste from SO" has become a meme - because they've put so much work into it, it's easy to find answers. But it's a terrible site to post your own questions if you're just getting started (and they're not exactly going out of their way to help along the noobs - I just don't bother anymore).
Not to come to their defense, but I see where they're coming from. There would be a lot more noise if their forums were a complete free-for-all. By being heavily moderated, the noise is cut down and it's a lot easier to find answers. But again, at the cost of making it difficult to ask a question. And I don't think they really care about trying to find the right balance.
Their moderation has become entrenched with the overweaning goal of filtering out all but the most interesting, most appropriate, most elite questions. It's a badge of honor to reject as many questions as possible. The intent appears to be that you the questioner should feel honored that they considered your question at all, much less answered it.
that, and them. I'll use an answer if it comes up as a search result. I don't actively use the site.
Agreed completely - I'll go there if this is where search results point me to, but I'm otherwise absolutely uninterested in participating in that community. If that's their goal, then mission accomplished.
There's no such thing as a contract stating that you have to stay with CP, you're free to go where you want.
I generally use google, there's almost always someone that already had the same problem as me. And often enough I end up finding a solution at SO.
Horrors! A CP member asking questions on SO? Stone the heretic!
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I think SO is a lot pickier than most other programming sites because they're focused on a long term goal of building a Googlable knowledge base rather than primarily helping people asking questions; and have tuned their moderation cleanup loop towards nuking anything that doesn't fit the former goal asap. I've used it successfully a lot in the past; although between being less experienced as a web dev now than a winform dev years ago and SO having so many more questions answered I very rarely need to ask anything new these days.
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