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Nearly fifty years ago Apollo 17 was the last manned mission to the moon.
Now NASA Artemis[^] is going back, aiming to land a crew in 2024.
Thank for that: we should have moon bases and a colony on Mars by now!
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I'm sorry to rain on both of our parades, but I don't believe that either the political or public will exists to support manned space travel, at least by the United States. That spirit died somewhere between the last of the Apollo missions and the end of William Proxmire's tenure in the U.S. Senate.
Frankly an announcement like this so close to a presidential election strikes me as a tactic, one to be discarded as soon as the election is over, one way or another.
You wouldn't believe how furious it makes me that I have to make an observation like that. I'm of the opinion that Proxmire ought to be dug up, resurrected, and then publicly executed as a traitor not just to the United States, but to the entire human species. It's his fault that the momentum of the Apollo era wasn't maintained. He made it his goal to saddle NASA with management that was either outright opposed to their mission or incompetent to execute it.
Oh, I disagree. Mr Trump wants to create a new branch of the military: the "Space Force". So far it is only talk, but the private enterprises (SpaceX and a few others) are gearing up. They will provide all of the launch vehicles.
If we continue destroying the planet at our current rate, and taking into account that most of these bad practices are positive feedback loops, we won't have to go to the barren surface of the moon at all.
I laugh anytime I see people calling doomsday on planet earth.
Do poeple who think we are destroying earth only live in highly dense cities?
Most of the world is unoccupied, there is room to spare. In the US we call them Fly-Over states because there is nothing there and they are largest part of our country.
We haven't even started trying to repair earth because it is not broken. There is no evidence it is dying, just warming. The world will change. It constantly changes. Temperatures and weather fluxuates, earthquakes happen, techtonic plates move, etc.
We can now desalinize the ocean, but how many cities on the coast are actually doing this? Hardly any. We can pipe oil and gas around the world, but we haven't more than considered piping desalinized ocean water places. We haven't even tried to terraform. What would happen if we terraformed the Sahara desert into a lush green forest? How would that forest affect our atmosphere to have more forest. Lower our carbon ommissions is only part of it. Increasing the plant life is another part.
Everything Nasa does will help us here on earth.
The best part of trying to inhabit a planet such as the moon is we learn terraforming skills that we can apply to increase vegetation here on earth, thus lowering our carbon footprint. Imagine a 3d printer that is solar powered than can scoop silicates (dirt, sand, etc) from the ground and make an air-tight glass dome for places like the moon or mars. Imagine testing this in the Sahara and creating thousands of miles of glass domes to use a green houses to erase the desert and replace it with green life.
We could create waterways to below sea-level zones, allowing ocean to flow in an out, such as the dead sea and death valley, which will add life, add moisture to the surrounding air and increase green life in those areas.
What if we gain the technology to mine asteroids while trying to terraform the moon and mars, could we mine oxygen and other healthy air and return it to earth?
The next two-hundred years is going to fun to be alive, to bad I'll only get about 50 more years of it.
How many garbage/plastic continents are there now? Last I heard about 5. Drinking water is going to become a big problem because farmers are using wells to water their crops. Gas and oil are finite, how long before they're depleted? I could go on but thats a pretty good start.
I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27.
The earth ejected the moon from its belly because it was infected with craters, and had a bad attitude about asteroids; it accepted its fate, its exile, with grace, only retaliating with one kick that tilted earth just 23.5 degrees off its axis.
The moon doesn't want earth people going there !
That ,,, will end badly.
Mars ? It's connected with the manipura chakra ... Don't get me started.
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You mean back to the studio!?
The moon landing was fake!
We're ruled by lizards!
Chemtrails make us docile!
5G spreads corona!
And most importantly, Epstein didn't kill himself! (this one may actually be true, I don't know...)
If they do manage to put people on the moon, perhaps those moon landing conspiracists will finally shut up.
And if they make some pictures of the earth while they're there we may root out the flat-earthers as well.
Only 8561348613487647821 more conspiracies left to go
Of course that's not how it goes and we'll get conspiracists saying the first was fake, but the second wasn't, people who'll say only the second was fake and people who'll say both are fake.
Also, some flat-earthers may believe the earth "popped" into a round shape right the minute those astronauts took a picture.
And there'll probably spawn a whole new breed of flat-mooners
"On 20 July 1969, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the surface of the moon. In the months leading up to their expedition, the Apollo 11 astronauts trained in a remote moon-like desert in the western United States. The area is home to several Native American communities, and there is a story - or legend - describing an encounter between the astronauts and one of the locals.
One day as they were training, the astronauts came across an old Native American. The man asked them what they were doing there. They replied that they were part of a research expedition that would shortly travel to the moon. When the old man heard that, he fell silent for a few moments, and then asked the astronauts if they could do him a favour.
'What do you want?' they asked.
'Well,' said the old man, 'the people of my tribe believe that holy spirits live on the moon. I was wondering if you could pass on a message to them from my people.'
'What's the message?' asked the astronauts.
The man uttered something in his tribal language, and then asked the astronauts to repeat it again and again until they had memorized it correctly.
'What does it mean?' asked the astronauts.
'Oh, I cannot tell you. It's a secret that only our tribe and the moon spirits are allowed to know.'
When they returned to their base, the astronauts searched and searched until they found someone who could speak the tribal language, and asked him to translate the secret message. When they repeated what they had memorized, the translator started to laugh uproariously. When he calmed down, the astronauts asked him what it meant.
The man explained that the sentence they had memorized so carefully said, 'Don't believe a single word these people are telling you. They have come to steal your lands.'"
--From the book, "Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind" by Yuval Noah Harari
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