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I use a mechanical ten keyless keyboard (Cooler Master Quickfire) on all my home computers. Also, I don't think I've ever come across an instance when I used the 10 key pad at work (retired now). I vaguely remember having a game decades ago that used the keypad but that's about it.
Yeah, old habits are hard to break. In Windows I still use WordStar control sequences when editing text. I remapped my keyboard to put the control key back to it's original position (where the capslock key is) and wrote an AutoHotkey script to use Wordstar control sequences in all the editors/IDEs/word processors that I use. Heh, nobody I know can use my editors unless they disable the script!
Intriguing, but if I have to submit a budget for a keyboard design, then I think I will look at something a little more reasonably priced. Very intriguing though, especially with the configurable buttons on the left with customized icons.
fwiw, I went through a bit of the "upgrade to mechanical" fun not to long ago, and here's my 2c from it:
there are cheaper keys, which I found to have inferior feel, and they failed after a short period of time. Get something with Cherry MX keys. Though I did have a go with Logitech G keys and they were quite good, just that the keyboard that was shipped to me didn't have exactly the layout that was advertised, so I sent it back.
the keyboard vendor seemed to matter less, once you have selected for good keys, since good keys drives up the price anyway: I have a Corsair k72 and a CoolerMaster mk750. I actually prefer the Corsair a little more because it has a scrollable volume control and integrated palm rest (vs the magnetic one on the Cooler Master), but if you're into fancy lighting, the Cooler Master does full RGB where the Corsair I have came in 25% cheaper and only does red (which suits me since I use red at night and I'm too lazy to change colors anyway)
ymmv, and it's a good idea, if possible (considering the price) to try out physical keyboards if you can, ie find some friends who have them and feel what it's like. A lot of these are built for the long run, which is another reason I moved to mechanical after one of my membrane boards died (it had a good run, really), so, considering the price and longevity, it's nice to find what you want first time (:
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We have two types here at the home office. Dell "compact" mechanical(ish) and Logitech K750 "solar" wireless.
The Dell is fine for occasional use however the Logitech is really great.
Short travel keys (better for big-fingered folk like me),
Full width, slim, stable,
Keeps full charge easily with everyday lighting, rechargeable button cell is replaceable if ever it conks out (contrary to what Logitech say),
Silly blue function keys reserved for multimedia playback/shortcuts etc.,
So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8
I use two on a regular basis - a Unicomp Model M (full keyboard) and a Filco Majestouch 2 (TKL) with Cherry MX Browns. Both UK layout (so I guess that's ISO?)
I got the Filco first and when I first got it, I thought it was excellent. Then I got the Unicomp... The keys have a lot more resistance than the Filco, but that makes the feel more positive, for me... But it's all personal preference...
I lust after a new Model F, but damn, they're expensive - too much for me!
You might be interested in one of Chyrosran22's key switch reviews - he's done several 'best switch' videos, depending on what you're looking for in switches. His review of rubbish keyboards are best though!
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I have a G-SKILL KM780 R, gamers keyboard, with Cherry MX Blue switches. I love the sound and feel of the Blue's but you can have this one with other MX. It has several additional buttons, 6 for macros (for gamers, remember?), but I use those for store sequences of characters for working in Visual Studio. (Shortcuts like CTRL+M, CTRL+N or so). It also has buttons for multimedia, keys light intensity and programming macros. A nice characteristic is that it saves internally the macros, so if you carry it to use in another computer, the keyboard will have the macros ready for you to use, even if this new computer does not have the Macros Programming Software installed.
A con is this software. It is not so easy to use (more like a mess) but once you finish programming, unless you need to change something, this programed macros will stay in the keyboard forever, no matter if you disconnect the the keyboard, turn off the PC for months, or any other circumstances.
Only in that finding a membrane keyboard with a non-adulterated layout is becoming a PITA. Cheap keyboards are increasingly using low travel non-chiclet style laptop designs and randomly deciding that you don't really need an insert, or delete, or etc key as much as they need an extra $1/thousand keyboards in profit.
The catch is that all mechanical keyboards are noisy. Even if you get a "silent" (lies) model; all that means is that it doesn't have a noise maker that goes click every time you depress the key half way; it still will go clack when it bottoms out. I have a non-click model with Cherry Red switches; and even after taking it apart to put rubber o rings as dampers on every key it's still loud enough that I wouldn't use it in a shared space.
Joan M wrote:
If they are, is really that TOPRE thing the best thing in the world?
Only if you're going full keyboard dork. Otherwise they're another technology that failed by being absurdly expensive.
Joan M wrote:
Are you using a full keyboard for your work or you are using a TKL + separate numpad or something different?
Full. I also mouse left handed, so the number pad placement is a total non-issue for me.
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I don't think I'd want to spend that kinda of money on a keyboard without being able to take it for a test spin.
Fortunately for me, when I decided to get a new mechanical keyboard I was able to go to a local brick 'n mortar store so I could at least test out the feel of the various mechanical switch types available at the time. That's how I ended up with a SteelSeries Apex 7 with blue cherry switches that I've been very happy with.
I'd love to compare the feel of these TOPRE switches, but I doubt there are any locally available to me.
If you end up in the same boat, make sure you purchase your new keyboard from somewhere with a liberal return policy!
Since a few months I have been using the Microsoft Surface Keyboard, WS2-00025, Silver.
It is bluetooth, so there is no cable.
Other things I like about it are:
it takes up very little space: 4.5" front to back, and 16.5" left to right.
it is very low: 1/4" in the front, 3/4" in the back, so it is easy on my hands
keys have sufficient resistance
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