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I've been very happy with (the paid version of) Babel[^]. Have been using it since V1. And yes, it supports debug symbols. Alberto is very quick to answer questions and provide support. 
/ravi
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Combinations of l1l1l1l1ll1l1l1l11l.
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we use Dotfuscator for .NET - PreEmptive Solutions[^]
Works well. But pretty expensive. There is a free version included in Visual Studio.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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My code is obfuscated the moment I write it. Leastways, I can never understand what I did when I come back to it. 
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I'm trying to move a database between servers and I'm getting an error message which is evidently well-known and which has a lengthy and annoying workaround provided by Microsoft. I really just want to get this done so I can move on, except the "Restart your computer to complete the updates" dialog pops up.
I tell it to go away until later, but then it pops back up and starts counting down from 15 mins. I tell it to go away. 15 mins later the machine reboots right in the middle of a database restore.
I understand machines should be patched. I understand users (me) get lazy and wait until we have a round toit before we restart. But to not offer the "I really, really need you to not restart right now" option is inexcusable. Actually it's just unfriendly and stupid.
Back to square one, probably with the added bonus of untangling the mess of a semi-restore.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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That is the one thing that has always annoyed me most about MS updates: the forced reboot when it decides it wants it, regardless of what effect it will have on the user. Fortunately, I haven't seen it for a couple of years now - but if they are bringing it back I could finally be tempted by linux...if VS worked on it!
Android for the desktop, anyone?
[update: I just found this ReMix OS[^] - Wonder if I could dual boot...]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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What about VS code?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Not sure about that one - it's not high on my list of things to look at - and I'd still need Win10 for testing and maintenance of existing stuff. But maybe a dual boot with Remix could give me the best of both worlds? Have to think about that one as well, I've plenty of unassigned SSD and HDD I could use...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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It's not worth it. It would take at least 5 years before it can be used in production.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I am in the process of moving the household - 3 laptops and 1 desktop to Ubuntu (1 with Lubuntu). With one machine left to go (i7 laptop running Win10) I have had to look at this. The solution seems to be running Win7 in Virtualbox and installing vs. Was about to test this on another machine but other things have intervened. I'm hoping it will work as well as everything else so far.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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As it stands now, my next upgrade after Windows 7 will be Ubuntu.
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I'm over 8 years now with Fedora, using VM to run Visual Studio on Windows...Now I;m venturing to VS Code...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Chris Maunder wrote: What about VS code?
Good start, but lack the richness of Visual Studio...However for simple API it is more than enough...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Quote: Android for the desktop, anyone? 
Tried, had issues with the touch support. Didn't like it.
Did you try elementary os[^]? It has a good design (nonetheless I don't like Mac). Not that, then what about Chrome OS[^]?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Quote: Restart your computer to complete the updates
Windows doesn't care, what you were doing, what you are doing, and what you will be doing.
Same thing happened to me today, I was going to clean install Windows 10 Anniversary update and, well, I had to go through the restart processes and everything before I can do anything at all, like start anything.
There is one way, you can defer updates. But that doesn't guarantee you can get around the error. What I believe should be done is that the setting must be applied system-wide to schedule the restart and until then Windows must leave us alone and not try to install the updates until that date. You're not alone, I do that too, too often, even I keep my laptop up and running for months and put it to hibernation if I have to, I don't restart or shut down the system for months or even more just because of this annoying feature. Makes me really like and appreciate Linux systems; Ubuntu.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Also that message "Don't turn off your computer." it's kind of annoying.
I think in Windows 7 it used to be "Please don't turn off your computer", slightly less condescending.
But nevertheless, it feels like I'm stuck in the sewers and waiting for someone to flush their toilet...
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Windows 10 has a good market share by now (more than 300 million devices), that is why they dropped the length of string a bit. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Understand... at hours, patches pushed out Tuesday morning.
After patches installed, system starts a 4 hour countdown and then it WILL restart.
Plan accordingly...
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We had to reboot a database server at work this week for a powershell update, and no I am not making this up. 
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Get with the times, Chris! Put it in the Cloud, then you don't have to worry about no stinking updates!!! And it will 'Just Work!"
Sorry, don't have enough sarcasm emojis to cover this statement. And roll-eyes. Can't forget the roll-eyes!
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You may cancel a reboot with
shutdown -a
and disable Windows Update messings with
net stop wuauserv
These commands should allow you to do whatever lengthy operation without being annoyed.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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I've got to try this the next time it wants me to reboot.
Was not aware that it posts the reboot to DOS.
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So the big question is
1. Why don't they have a tiny "PLEASE NOT NOW!" button on the dialog saying you're doomed
2. Why don't they have something as simple as a check on user mouse or keyboard activity. If I'm furiously typing away then it's safe to say I'm busy. If I've been warned and it has a little pulsating skull and cross bones in the bottom right of the screen saying "we'll reboot as soon as you're gone" then I can finish work, save it, then leave it to go ahead and do its diabolical work.
Either are simple and user friendly.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I totally agree ; it seems like MS is considering users more and more as non-capable beings, thus it removes the need to ask them whether a given action should take place or not.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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And yet their development tools are going in exactly the opposite direction. You spend more and more time on the tooling than the business logic.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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