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this part of the world drives me crazy
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I have WSL installed, but would like some feedback on preferred Linux distro to run.
List (not exhaustive or detailed but reasonable sample)
Ubuntu
Debian
kali-linux (never heard of this one)
OracleLinux
SUSE-Linux
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I run Ubuntu both 18.04 and 22.04 without any problem. Normally I stick to LTS versions to avoid hassle.
Mircea
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I have been using Deepstack for more than a year and it was working fine until one day it just stopped working without me making any changes.
It detects motion, but then will cancel and send it to the Cancelled Alerts folder... all of them.. on all cameras. I have 8 cameras and they are different brands.
I tried so many things like...
uninstalling blue Iris and installing a fresh copy.. no fix. Changed hard drive, no fix.
Did a computer restore to the day before the issue started.. no fix.
Uninstalled Deepstack and installed Code Project.. no fix.. it behaves exactly the same way.
Installed Blue Iris on a completely different computer and setup Code Project.. same issue.. detects motion, but sends it to the Cancelled Alerts folder and no notification is sent.
Code Project page show Started and everything seems to be working fine, but it's not.
Here is a portion of the log...
1 3/24/2023 4:09:33.016 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15047ms
0 3/24/2023 4:09:42.437 PM New Delete: nothing to do [2.43T/2.44T, 1.19T free]
0 3/24/2023 4:09:42.534 PM Alerts Delete: 10 items 9.97M [168/168 hrs, 947.0M/1.00G, 1.19T free] 21 locked
2 3/24/2023 4:09:52.084 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:09:52.084 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15069ms
2 3/24/2023 4:10:11.026 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:10:11.026 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15057ms
3 3/24/2023 4:10:27.189 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:10:42.433 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:10:42.433 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15054ms
2 3/24/2023 4:10:48.492 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:10:48.493 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
0 3/24/2023 4:11:32.649 PM App AI is being restarted
3 3/24/2023 4:11:46.006 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:12:01.255 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:12:01.255 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 15055ms
1 3/24/2023 4:14:16.375 PM Shed-Outside Signal: network retry
4 3/24/2023 4:14:20.784 PM Shed-Outside Signal: restored
0 3/24/2023 4:14:42.872 PM Alerts Delete: 6 items 6.09M [168/168 hrs, 940.1M/1.00G, 1.19T free] 21 locked
3 3/24/2023 4:18:06.788 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:18:22.041 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:18:22.042 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15049ms
2 3/24/2023 4:18:27.907 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:18:27.908 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
2 3/24/2023 4:18:31.691 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:18:31.691 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
2 3/24/2023 4:18:45.248 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:18:45.248 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
3 3/24/2023 4:18:58.907 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:19:14.160 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:19:14.160 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 15057ms
0 3/24/2023 4:19:20.059 PM App AI is being restarted
3 3/24/2023 4:19:23.212 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:19:38.457 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:19:38.458 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15058ms
0 3/24/2023 4:19:43.195 PM Alerts Delete: 6 items 6.29M [168/168 hrs, 937.6M/1.00G, 1.19T free] 21 locked
2 3/24/2023 4:19:57.421 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:19:57.421 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15076ms
3 3/24/2023 4:20:08.929 PM Driveway MOTION_A
3 3/24/2023 4:20:09.926 PM Back MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:20:24.181 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:20:24.181 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 15052ms
2 3/24/2023 4:20:25.181 PM Back AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:20:25.185 PM Back AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15053ms
0 3/24/2023 4:21:15.906 PM App AI is being restarted
3 3/24/2023 4:22:09.765 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:22:24.995 PM Driveway AI: timeout
1 3/24/2023 4:22:24.995 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: timeout] 15050ms
2 3/24/2023 4:22:31.090 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:22:31.090 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
3 3/24/2023 4:22:50.368 PM Driveway MOTION_A
2 3/24/2023 4:22:52.565 PM Driveway AI: not responding
1 3/24/2023 4:22:52.565 PM Driveway AI: Alert cancelled [AI: not responding] 0ms
0 3/24/2023 4:23:20.620 PM App AI is being restarted
I have contacted Blue Iris support, but their assistance is pretty much non-existent. I have been at this for almost 2 weeks now.
I don't know what else to do. Can anyone please advise what else I can try or what could be the issue?
Thanks.
modified 4hrs ago.
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This is not the place for your question. See the phrase in red letters above.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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There is a forum dedicated to the CodeProject AI, here[^].
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Sorry, I am new here. Not sure what I need to do. Where do I need to post my question?
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Click the link I posted that says "here".
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I did. and it took me to another page and I posted my question there.
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From 120GB to 480GB. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif) Lots of space now. The old one had ~20GB left, with most of the used space being Windows. New one has 350GB left.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Lots of spacewasters on Windows that can go onto a normal 1Tb drive. Temp drive, downloads, docs.
..still trying to get 5 USB3 keys to run as raid5.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I do have a 1TB data drive, though I was having trouble getting Windows to actually put some folders there (e.g. Downloads, Documents). Might have been a bug in the version I was using at that time. I do have several other programs pointed to it for data.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Wondering the same for my pc, except using an M2 SSD instead of a normal SSD, but is it really wort it?
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Depends. Does your motherboard have an M2 connector?
They are more expensive - quite a bit - but they are faster - again, quite a bit.
Either way, go as big as you can: because of how they work larger drives last longer, with the same amount of data. It you don't have a lot of free space, then you are using he same cells over and over - and that pushes the life down lots as each cell has a finite number of writes before it breaks.
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It does have an M2 connector, but Im wondering if it is advantageous to put the operating system on that one. Or does that not matter?
More is more when it comes to storage 
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It's not just "more is more", it's "writes wear it out": if you have 100GB on a 128Gb drive, there are only 28GB of cells that get written to when there are changes. For a 1TB drive with 100GB on it, there are 900GB of cells to rotate through as data changes. Since each cell has a fixed number of writes, the smaller drive will wear out much more quickly as cells fail.
Stick the OS and Apps on the fast expensive drive, and data that changes on cheaper, slower drives.
Needless to say, back the buggers up! 
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From my point of view you are speculating very much.
You mention 'Since each cell has a fixed number of writes....'
Please define that more specific 
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Actually, he's not.  SSD memory cells can only handle so many writes - a lot of them, but there is a limit. See this: SSD reliability in the real world: Google's experience | ZDNET[^]
with that in mind, the controller on the SSD (as well as any other persistent silicon storage) does the job of wear levelling. Because this controller exists, we no longer need to defrag SSD drives. Eventually, cells on the device will fail, and the controller marks them as bad and doesn't attempt to use them. Years ago, when I converted to SSD, I dug into this area, as I was skeptical about how long an SSD would last. The math I worked out was something like 8 years, longer than the life span of the laptop.
Charlie Gilley
βThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.β BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Nice explanation! 
I did the same research when I bought my first, and that's why I got a 1TB SSD for OS / Apps and (still) use a 1TB HDD data drive. It also reduces the amount of data I need to backup, which helps.
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Sorry an article from 2016 is a nice explanation 
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2016, good luck
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As far as I am aware, the laws of physics haven't changed in the last 7 years.
The detailed numbers may be different (hopefully better) with improvements in processing, but the fundamental principle remains.
SSD cells wear out.
The controller does a good job load levelling.
But eventually it runs out of good cells.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Kenneth Haugland wrote: but Im wondering if it is advantageous to put the operating system on that one. Or does that not matter?
Oh yes... It is a boost on speed. Moving data faster is something I wouldn't miss that much, but other things that require reading / writing (i.e. compiling) is a noticable difference.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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