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Interesting.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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| π - 22/7 | < | π - 3.14 |
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Warning: "Real Pi Day is not available in the United States of America, where they do dates wrong".
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They have inverse pi day (with the crust on the inside?  )
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Anti Pi! That's probably involved whenever you put pineapple on ...
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Wait a minute we do dates and figs and even import a pineapple on occasion.
Sorry I'll get my hat. haven't caffeinated yet.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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If life gives you lemons, sell 'em and buy a pineapple!
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Is python a pie-eating contest?
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Hello I am Miss Bad Wolf. I am trying to find a web forum for programmers. I used to to be a programmer but that was a decade ago. I have an idea of a software I want to make but trying to figure out where to start.
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Hello.
Start by working out what you know, and what you need to learn. 10 years is a long time, and things change - so you need to work out what environment you need to code for, because that will determine the languages and frameworks you will have to understand.
This is a good place to start though: Free IDE and Developer Tools | Visual Studio Community[^]
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Okay that sounds good. I will look up the free IDE and Developer tools.
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Welcome!
I also spent a decade away from computers and the changes were astounding.
I narrowed my focus at first and learned c# then gradually widened my circle of interest.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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It all depends on what you want to do, you should provide more details so we can give better advice.
Here is a nice site with recommendations: https://www.slant.co/tags/development
I don't agree with all recommendations though, e.g. Python scores very high, but I think it's way too slow for many purposes.
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I agree concerning Python …  (I am not that far yet to talk about performance, it's the syntax which I cannot get used to, having FORTRAN/C++/C# background...). It would be interesting to see a non-biased comparison of "capabilities" between Python and C#, BR
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Yes, the problem with all these statistics is that they are mostly based on "popularity" like the TIOBE index mentioned in a previous post. But popular does not mean the best of course 
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True … and in the meantime I found a comparison on "Slant"
(funny thing … I see it only now that I am referring to the same website … )
https://www.slant.co/versus/110/115/~python_vs_c
which seems unbiased as it points out some disadvantages of Python, like
"...Con: Inelegant and messy language design …"
and also
"...Con: Significant whitespace ..."
This weakens their suggestion to use Python as a 1st programming language to study…
C# is probably better for this …
BR,
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The tool set hasn't changed much - Microsoft still releases stuff before it's ready from prime time, refuses to address bugs in those products, and abandons frameworks shortly after they almost become ubiquitous. In that regard, you ain't missed much.
The only things that have changed are bizarre and pointless updates to C# (mostly in an aggravating attempt to illustrate that Microsoft is somehow still on the cutting edge).
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Microsoft is on the slashing -- as in, slashing the users -- edge. 
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A Whovian?
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it.
So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018)
See Picture Here (July 2018)
www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
modified yesterday.
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georani wrote: but more fun and readable to program with it.
Nurse! Quick! Here we have another one that believes his own propaganda!
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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this is good …
BTW, Google trends says that VB.NET popularity is waaay below C#,
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I call bullocks
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
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