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W Balboos, GHB12-Sep-11 6:06
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
1- Syria offered peace in return of Israel giving back the golan heights. Its been more then 25 years now.


Actually, they didn't offer peace, but return of the Golan was a condition to begin talks. Similar, in fact, to a global offer made by the Arab world, to the effect: Go Back To 1967 Lines and we'll think about recognizing your existence (and right to exist).

In both cases, it amounted to demanding what should be the point of negotiation as a stipulation for initiation of negotiations. The latter case reminded me (at the time it was proposed) of a child crying 'DO OVER" in some sort of game. Take an example where the peace offer was sincere: Egypt made peace and they got back the Sinai afterwards.

The best common-place analogy I can think of would be a store insisting upon charging you to enter so you could buy things from them. That (at least to me) is craziness.

My (fantasy) belief is imagining if the region accepted Israel peacefully from the beginning. All of that oil wealth and Israeli technical know-how working together. What an awesome place that could have been to live! Instead, I'm left shaking my head.

Going back to an earlier remark (the canon-fodder concept). Prior to 1967, Jordan controlled the West Bank. There was no call for a palestinian state. Neither was there one afterwards, so long as Egypt could be relied upon to sacrifice its children whenever someone stirred up a war.

With the current situation on the ground, I see only one route to a settlement: if the entire Arab world made peace with Israel - and they lived in peace for a reasonable period of time - then a lot of problems about secure borders (etc.) would go away (or certainly be greatly simplified). The problem really is their going about the whole thing backwards.








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