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I worked in a group where program managers were held to within 5% of their project estimates. Corporate spent lots of money on consultants and tools. We spent several years being micromanaged daily by having to spend an hour or so a day updating our status into the tools. The result was the program managers could watch the forecasts (we called them wiggle charts) get larger day by day. So they knew exactly when they had exceeded their 5% margin of error.

After the first set of program managers moved on because of missing their targets, the next set of program managers came up with a clever solution. They institutionalized sandbagging. The result was that nobody got fired, but we couldn't actually do anything because the estimated cost of any project was astronomical. The result was that no project appeared to make financial sense - clearly that was wrong too.

Now we use scrum. Though it has issues too (like not begin able to accurately estimate end dates), but from an engineering point of view it's much better than most other processes that we've tried and discarded.
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