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This is not a question!
For a while, I have been using RhodeCode[^] as my source control browser.
BUT! I just found the Allura[^] project, which is what powers SourceForge[^]. Just looking at the feature list made me decide to switch to that instead.
Quite cool, I must say.
EDIT: It appears Allura only supports mercurial 1.4, so I will not use it, as I need to use Mercurial 2.x. Well, back to RhodeCode it is, then.
Gryphons Are Awesome! Gryphons Are Awesome!
modified 30-Mar-13 13:19pm.
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CLI-Command Line interface (Generic)
GUI-Graphical User Interface(Generic)
NUI-Natural User Interface(almost Generic)
From generic what i mean, its almost same for everyone
who uses it.
Can't we make that thing specific to a type of person
who is using it?
Please comment on the wild thought:P
World is short of Ideas!
modified 29-Mar-13 17:16pm.
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Well if this supposed "NUI" is the same heap of crap that's called Metro then no, it's a backwards step.
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Yep,
Artificial Intelligence comes after some common sense i guess.. :P
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My vote of 5 for your words, as exactly as what I want to utter out, but I'm not brave like you. 
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No.
First, far as I can tell, currently NUI is best guess approach not application learning. Learning has existed for years and most people don't use it.
Second, some functionality, such as typing are unlikely to be replaced.
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Rich are getting richer and poor getting poorer.
I am speaking with reference to technology.
I was thrown out of my OS lab when i argued that NUI is just not a great idea.
We are making it easier and easier for common people than raising their standards
or telling them more about computer technology.
I think they would prefer learning how to code(so that they can solve their problems by themselves and not waiting for a s/w or an app that will solve it for them) than having installed computer on their face(google glasses)
World is short of ideas!
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Monster Maker wrote: I think they would prefer learning how to code(so that they can solve their problems by themselves and not waiting for a s/w or an app that will solve it for them) than having installed computer on their face(google glasses)
"They" wont. If people would prefer to code then the world would be full of people coding. its not. The massive majority are users not developers.
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i don't want everyone to be a developer,
i just wan't from everyone to have some knowledge about coding and computer technology.
and you can imagine that how much time it would save in software development(sdlc) when the client understands ur 2nd level dfd in one go.
how about it?
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Sure, when you can perform open heart surgery, then it's fair for you to expect that busy doctor to have knowledge about coding. Your youth and inexperience is showing.
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Sure i don't wanna know how open heart surgery is done,
but i ll not mind learning about first aid,
and i ll surely learn about the medicines that can provide relief to my stomach pain, or my
asthama.
So for doctors coding is like first aid for us,
and understanding OS is like medicine that would solve their common problems in their life.
But they don't have time understanding that(that's your point), so that's what m saying UI should be made more friendly , somewhat specific to him! That will save his time!
World is short of ideas!
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Sure, when you can perform open heart surgery, then it's fair for you to expect that busy doctor to have knowledge about coding
Certainly not the best analogy since most doctors do not know that either.
And there isn't any opportunity to learn it on your nor pick it up on your own.
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Most people that use software or drive a car couldn't care less how either works under the hood. Most people also drive over bridges and live in homes without thinking about the engineering that went into them too.
People simply want these things to be pleasing to the eye and to fit a purpose in their life. Only when these things fail to be pleasing to the eye or fail in their designated purpose do they care; and that caring is merely to point the finger of blame at those that built it.
That is the human condition, acknowledge it, accept it, and move on.
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Monster Maker wrote: I think they would prefer learning how to code(so that they can solve their problems by themselves and not waiting for a s/w or an app that will solve it for them) than having installed computer on their face(google glasses)
I'm curious what planet you live on, is the sky blue like ours? 
Back in '78, it was one of the West Coast Computer Faires held in San Jose, CA where I attended a session that a panel of self professed "experts" declared that the COBOL program was soon to be extinct since going forward, all school children would be learning how to program.
This old gentleman, (well, old to me, as was a wee sprout) stood up and said they were wrong. He said look around, everyone in this room knows how to read and write. How many are going to write novels?
I wish I had a video of that moment. I thought he had nailed it, while the panel avoided looking at him and no doubt hoped security would remove the old fool.
To paraphrase a line from Dr. Strangelove, "Programming is too important to be left to users. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought."
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Quote: I'm curious what planet you live on, is the sky blue like ours?
Are you a computer faculty somewhere? 
You resemble mine..
Quote: Back in '78
If you are comparing 2013 with 1978, then let me tell you only the sky is blue since then.
I am sure respected Dr. Strangelove had no facebook account,nor iphone and was unknown what wonders would be done by visual studio before making that comment.
Things have changed from then sir.
Learning cobol is far different from learning javascript(you must be knowing)
and working on windows-8 is different from mainframe.
8 year infants today know how to configure iphone,
where they would find cheats of their games,google can answer them anything.
and 1000's of other services they would use in future.
Don't you think they deserve to know some more knowledge(not only coding) about OS, so that they can implement their own idea in between something that has become so important part of their lives.
As a student we don't like to just sit and see things happening. We got to know some working behind the scenes so that we can manipulate or customize it in our way for our personal use.
And don't go back in 78 , think about next 78(2078)
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Monster Maker wrote: Are you a computer faculty somewhere?
You resemble mine..
Aw, the inexperience, naivety, and idealism of youth...it is really a good thing to have, but you will start to see patterns as you get older. Patterns like, everyone will soon be a programmer, programming is a dying profession, computers will be programming themselves soon, and my favorite, everything worthwhile has already been programmed.
Monster Maker wrote: I am sure respected Dr. Strangelove had no facebook account,nor iphone and was unknown what wonders would be done by visual studio before making that comment.
Dr. Strangelove did not make that comment I paraphrased, General Jack D. Ripper did. But you'd know that if you had ever seen the movie.
Monster Maker wrote: Things have changed from then sir.
Learning cobol is far different from learning javascript(you must be knowing)
and working on windows-8 is different from mainframe.
Not really. It is still stringing commands for a non thinking entity to follow without question. The syntax is different, but in 20 years or so, someone will tell you the same about JavaScript and whatever is the fad language of the time. Oh, please tell me you're not one of those idiots who pop up every once in a while and say that if it were in your power, you'd eliminate Assembly programming.
Monster Maker wrote: 8 year infants today know how to configure iphone,
Configuring is not programming. My grandchildren have been using computers since they were 2 1/2 (although they don't get the hang of mouse clicking until they were 3 1/2), but none of them had the inclination to become programmers. I still hold out hope for the great grandchildren, but they are not old enough to use computers yet. My children ignored my daily use of computers until they finally saw the light of employment, but they are not programmers, just users. Using a spreadsheet is not programming, even though it does require some rigor in thought. VisiCalc was one of the programs that were cited to me as justification that programmers will soon be obsolete. That, and CASE programming. You don't hear anything about CASE anymore, that was where you were to tell the computer in general terms what you wanted done and then it would write the program for you. Didn't really work out except for extremely limited circumstances.
Monster Maker wrote: And don't go back in 78 , think about next 78(2078)
See my tagline about this. Reality is for those who cannot handle science fiction, which I've read all my life. My first books were Collier's Man in Space Golden Books before I could read. When I learned to program in high school, we only had accesss to computers during the school year. Summer vacation had us all like junkies trying to get our computer fix. That contributed to my decision to buy an HP-65 programmable calculator, that was before the Altair 8800 was announced. I worked at one of earliest computer stores and had to endure people telling me daily that there was no rational reason for anyone to have a personal computer. Now you are an oddball if you don't have at least one programmable device.
But this is where you are going to make your money...the vast majority of people don't want to program. (See my paraphrased quote) This is right up there with car owners not wanting to be mechanics, they just want to be able to use their devices, they don't want to know how they work. Someone will have to write the programs for them, drag and drop programming is not going to fill the bill for the future's requirements. I once had an accountant ask me why it was going to take any time to write the program he wanted. Hadn't everything been done? Considering that accounting has been with us since the dawn of writing, I could see where he was coming from. But I countered with the fact that programming is barely 50 years old (at that time). And I asked, "Who programmed cellphones before they existed?"
Programming is still evolving, but it is never going to be finished. We've been building bridges for millennia, but we still build ones that collapse. Our language is not cast in concrete, don't tell me you haven't added new words to your vocabulary in you lifetime (and I'm not talking about ones already in the dictionary, but have been added recently). Programming and user interfaces are going to change, you just think the latest is the greatest. Give it a few years, you'll change your mind.
Programming is an exciting field...we create from absolute nothingness. Artists and writers can make the same claim, but our creations actually do something.
But it's not for everyone. I don't mean that in an elitist way, programming is not for everyone in the same way that microbiology is not for everyone, or farming or (fill in the blank). Be thankful that you have that inclination, it will set you apart from the masses that can't see the future you have to look into every day when you write your programs.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
modified 2-Apr-13 9:54am.
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A very powerful message.
The trouble is that some computer skills are so basic, they are akin to reading and writing, not akin to becoming a novelist.
Learning to communicate with a computer is very akin to learning to communicate by, say, writing a letter.
Although people lived their lives without being able to read and write, I think you'd agree that because reading and writing were made part of a basic education, quality of life has had an enormous potential to improve.
Making informed decisions is usually preferable to leaving things to chance.
The skill of reading brought the knowledge of books to the masses. The skill of communicating with a computer has the potential to allow the masses to discover information, evaluate data, perform their duties with more efficiency than ever before.
Also, I find it interesting that a discussion of user interfaces have led to a discussion of whether or not people should know how to code. It would seem that non-computer users cannot differentiate the two.
Scary. I wonder too, whether people would question their heart surgeon if he/she tried to use a butter knife. Maybe not. I've learned not to implicitly trust user interfaces. Probably because they don't pay malpractice insurance.
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schmidja wrote: Although people lived their lives without being able to read and write, I think you'd agree that because reading and writing were made part of a basic education, quality of life has had an enormous potential to improve.
No doubt, but most people barely write shopping lists.
schmidja wrote: The skill of reading brought the knowledge of books to the masses. The skill of communicating with a computer has the potential to allow the masses to discover information, evaluate data, perform their duties with more efficiency than ever before.
I have a low opinion of those people, just try reading comments on news stories or even YouTube. The potential is there, most choose not to use it for good. I must say I've become very cynical and now regard education as a waste for many. They are taught facts, but not how to use them. Hopefully we will grow past that. They used to think television was going to bring education to the masses instead of "reality" shows.
schmidja wrote: Also, I find it interesting that a discussion of user interfaces have led to a discussion of whether or not people should know how to code. It would seem that non-computer users cannot differentiate the two.
I agree with that.
I just wish more people were learning to really program. The last ad my company placed looking for programmers had no respondents. Granted my boss was looking for MS Access programmers, but I would have thought there would have been someone willing to give it a go.
P.S. You might enjoy reading my response to Monster Maker's response, I won't come off as such a downer as I seem to have here.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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jschell wrote: Second, some functionality, such as typing are unlikely to be replaced.
Optimist ...
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It should be the LNOB interface...Leave No One Behind UI!
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hah..that's the good one.
I am surely going to add that "LNOB" interface in my next android app!! :P
You do it in your code..
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Or the LCD UI, lowest common denominator ui.
When I look at the metro ui, I kind of start wondering what happend to the guy who once designed programmers workbench ...
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Espen Harlinn wrote: When I look at the metro ui, I kind of start wondering what happend to the guy who once designed programmers workbench ...
Maybe Windows 9 will be a command line OS, since we seem to be digressing? We can call it WIDIOT?
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heheh... one thing i can tell about you is that
you are in habit of seeing things with different angles,
and always try new things.
That's simply gr8 about you.
Keep doing the same!!
But for now help me debating others. :PP
World is short of ideas!
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