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Nicolas Dorier7-Mar-14 4:26
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Can't agree more.
My logging coding practice is always done in this order :
-First I Console.Write.
-Then if Console.Write does not fit anymore because of some feature, I replace them with "Logger.Write" Logger being one of my classes, then inside I use the TraceSource class. (the standard .NET log lib).

Astronauts say : "yeah but you have to break your code anywhere"... Is it such big of a deal to replace all Console.Write in your code to Logger.Write ?
Never understood why people fear so much refactoring code... f*** the advantage of software is that it is soft and we can change.

Such over bloated logging framework exists only because some developer prefer to develop a plugin instead of modifying the code when features change... then we end up with config mess. (I have scars, and also from my own old code)

The though process of architect astronaut are as such :
-"My client does not know where to log stuff, so instead of taking a decision, I will allows everything by using the pluggable logging framework X"
Then for very sick astronauts the second question is : (I was one of those, and looking back, I would put my fist in my younger face... I was reading too much martin fowler)
-"My client does not know which pluggable logging framework to use... so I need to develop an extensible logging framework-framework to change logging framework X if it is not good"
And then you end up with 5 layers of interface from different logging frameworks.

Such logging framework over rating is a symptom of an indecisive team.

It was a long response but I get so much scars of these indecision that it made me on fire.
Suffered from until I learned the "Don't ask permission, take the decision and apologize if it does not fit".
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