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Hmmm, just seen the reply below. Fat_Boy was deliberately courting controversy with the whole Israel thing (he said so at least once), though getting rid of the message because of it is going way too far IMO.
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I think we've all had "less than optimal" discussions with him in the past, but that does not mean that anyone has the right to abuse the CP voting mechanism to take away his right to air an honest opinion.
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He was calling for boycott of Israel in his signature. Very political, completely inappropriate here and has nothing to do with coding from my point of view.
Nick Polyak
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Cool!
I'll have to boycott Israel in my sig, too!
Or Syria. I'm allowed to boycott Syria, right?
@rseholes who impinge on people's freedom of speech (whether I agree with their views or not) get short shrift, from me.
The CP voting system was not instigated to be used for political means.
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I understand your point of view, but i hold a different one. This is a software site and we should not get into political wars on it.
Nick Polyak
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Nick Polyak wrote:
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Thanks for clearing that up. We have differing views on something.
Now, according to your rules about how to deal with things that you disagree with, I shall vote your posting as abuse.
The next time that someone says or posts something that you disagree with, either discuss it with them in a civilised way (moving it to the soapbox if it's political), or shut the f*** up -- DO NOT abuse the CP voting mechanism.
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Controvesial political views should not be aired on a software site. From my point of view they do not belong to here
They undermine the puepose of the site
Nick Polyak
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Then you discuss it like a civilised human being. You do not snipe like a coward from hiding, and you do not vote something as abuse unless it is abuse.
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I do not plan to discuss politics at a site that explicitly forbids discussing politics. I come to it to share my software knowledge
Nick Polyak
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Then you go for option B: Shut the f*** up.
Now, how do you explain your politically motivated abuse of the CP voting system?
Or will you be a much bigger man than I expect you will be, and just apologise for that abuse?
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You are correct. It's a violation of Lounge rules and there is nothing wrong with ignoring it and there is also nothing wrong with reporting it.
I think Mark's just looking to fight.
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Saying boycotting Israel is controversial would also be a controversial political opinion in quite a few places.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: The next time that someone says or posts something that you disagree with, either discuss it with them in a civilised way ...
Is this fatboy you are referring to?
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Hey, I didn't say "successfully".
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Voltaire never said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
But that doesn't make it any worse.
It was Evelyn Beatrice Hall that ascribed it to Voltaire
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Let's be honest: There isn't a person alive who genuinely has enough information to know what is right and what is wrong in every circumstance.
Opinions and beliefs are all formed from partial information -- i.e. not enough intelligence -- and, co-incidentally, it is only people with not enough intelligence who assume that all their beliefs are totally right.
"I refuse you the right to express your opinions because they fall outside what I want to believe" is just plain wrong, on so many levels -- and it is certainly not what the CP voting system is for.
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I do not think a voltare meant tht a software site should publish political messages. In general i agree there ahould be a venue to vent them out. But not at a software site
Nick Polyak
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If you had actually read my message you would have noticed that Voltaire probably never said anything such.
Point is though that free speech is the base of all freedoms.
I'm not going to jump any conclusions though and assume that you were the one that reported the messages.
But if you were, I'd like to ask you if you tried to discuss it with him in before hand or not.
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Nick Polyak wrote: i agree there ahould be a venue to vent them out. But not at a software site There are two venues on this site: The Lounge (here) for general discussions, and The Soapbox for politics and religion. If you don't like the discussions or their content you are free to comment, or ignore them.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: on people's freedom of speech The Lounge has specific rules and his sig was a clear violation of it. I mentioned it to him long ago, although I didn't vote him down for it, but the sig clearly is political and should not be in the lounge.
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Wow.
The old testament and the new testament working together to suppress the opinions of those who follow neither.
Whatever next?
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Are you high?
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Accusing other members of being drug addicts, and therefore criminals, is something that does qualify as abuse.
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