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Munchies_Matt28-Nov-17 21:16

28-Nov-17 21:16

I dont get how much of the entire western world is so backwards, so LUdditeish, so incapable of recognising that the lose employment model exemplified by Uber, which is the RESULT of modern western business practice, is the future!

IT contractors, many builders, work this way. And today there are websites for example where you can register a task of only a few hours and get someone to come around and do the work. For example clearing out junk from a garden.

This is the future of work, self employed, flexible, serving the needs of the market in a dynamic way. Uber is perfect example of this.

Daniel Pfeffer28-Nov-17 21:52

Daniel Pfeffer

28-Nov-17 21:52

I expect that the "working for a single employer" model will not disappear; the Government (and many companies) have a constant need for skilled workers in particular fields; interviewing new workers for each new project is inefficient.

If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.

--Winston Churchill

Munchies_Matt28-Nov-17 22:12

28-Nov-17 22:12

Indeed, it depends on the company and its needs, but as I pointed out with the building industry we have had this lose arrangement for many years. Peoples (governments) reaction (hostility) to Uber is quite frankly staggering. Did horse shoe makers halt the adoption of the motor car? Why the hell do we allow luddites to do the same to Uber.

Mycroft Holmes28-Nov-17 22:39

Mycroft Holmes

28-Nov-17 22:39

I don't think that has anything to do with the article, UBER as a company seems to be thoroughly rotten, their internal culture smells rotten, mysogeny, espionage, treating staff like crap and having the morals and ethics of a wolverine does not make for a nice corporate entity.

I agree that the concept they are pushing is valid but the way they push it is not.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Munchies_Matt28-Nov-17 23:15

28-Nov-17 23:15

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I don't think that has anything to do with the article

Yes, I was just ranting.

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
UBER as a company seems to be thoroughly rotten

I dont know. What I do know is that many people are out to ruin it, so I suspect alot of what is said is unjustified. But I dont know for sure.

What you say here could be aimed at McDonalds for example.

Joe Woodbury29-Nov-17 5:57

Joe Woodbury

29-Nov-17 5:57

Munchies_Matt wrote:
What you say here could be aimed at McDonalds for example.

No. There are magnitudes of differences between the ethical behavior of Uber and most other companies, including Lyft. For example, McDonalds didn't get their market share by undercutting their competition so much they lost more money than any other fast food company in history.

Munchies_Matt29-Nov-17 7:09

29-Nov-17 7:09

Uber lost money?

Go on, provide some proof of that.

Uber’s losses grew to $1.5 billion last quarter | TechCrunch[^]

Joe Woodbury29-Nov-17 7:12

Joe Woodbury

29-Nov-17 7:12

Munchies_Matt29-Nov-17 7:58

29-Nov-17 7:58

TECHNOLOGY; A Surprise From Amazon: Its First Profit - The New York Times[^]

"After losing $2.8 billion since it was founded in 1995"

Is that any reason to hate Amazon?

Joe Woodbury29-Nov-17 8:18

Joe Woodbury

29-Nov-17 8:18

Munchies_Matt wrote:
Is that any reason to hate Amazon?

Don't mistake pointed criticism as hate. Likewise, just because an idea sounds good, doesn't mean you should gloss over the problems in its execution.

(BTW, that article is from 2002. Amazon lost less money in 7 years than Uber loses every six months. Uber has been increasing it's losses every year, not reducing them. Add to that its mismanagement problems and its a wonder that it's still around. Given its cash flow, I don't expect Uber to just disappear, but rather to be heavily restructured. The new CEO, Dara Khosrowshahi, strikes as a very smart guy with a good track record. It will be interesting to see what he does with Uber.)

W∴ Balboos, GHB29-Nov-17 2:51

W∴ Balboos, GHB

29-Nov-17 2:51

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
mysogeny, espionage, treating staff like crap and having the morals and ethics of a ~~wolverine~~ hemorrhoid

There are a lot of people who embrace this model.

Ravings en masse^
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

Mark Parity29-Nov-17 2:44

Mark Parity

29-Nov-17 2:44

Munchies_Matt wrote:
For example clearing out junk from a garden.

Never, ever, ever, ever get somebody to clear the junk from your garden, if you respect your local countryside.

Munchies_Matt29-Nov-17 3:08

29-Nov-17 3:08

Ya Know?

#realJSOP28-Nov-17 5:39

#realJSOP

28-Nov-17 5:39

I really enjoy going back and re-reading my articles. Sometimes, I find myself asking if it was really me that wrote them.

Seventeen years on CP next month (and I was here for a couple of years before registering as a user, too). Smile | :)

".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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Mike Hankey28-Nov-17 6:20

Mike Hankey

28-Nov-17 6:20

Yeah I get in a reminiscing mood every now and agin and go back and look at my articles.

Looking at then and now, I've grown a lot.

Someone's therapist knows all about you!

Do not escape reality : improve reality !

Rage28-Nov-17 6:27

Rage

28-Nov-17 6:27

I am heading to year sixteen. SIXTEEN. This is just plain crazy- time flies.

RickZeeland28-Nov-17 6:58

RickZeeland

28-Nov-17 6:58

Probably the CodeProject editors spiced them up a bit $Shucks | :-\$

#realJSOP28-Nov-17 7:01

#realJSOP

28-Nov-17 7:01

I know you're just being sarcastic, but I think there's a standing rule at CP not to f*ck with my stuff. They may be in Canada, but I can easily cross the border without being noticed. Smile | :)

Sean Ewington28-Nov-17 7:37

Sean Ewington

28-Nov-17 7:37

That there is, John. That there is. We know better.

Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject

phil.o28-Nov-17 8:27

phil.o

28-Nov-17 8:27

I have some

[OriginalSourceCode(LicenseType.CPOL102, "John Simmons / outlaw programmer", "http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/16646/Reliable-Floating-Point-Equality-Comparison")]
public static bool AlmostEquals(this double value, double other, double epsilon = Const.Epsilon64) {
   // ...
}

and

[OriginalSourceCode(LicenseType.CPOL102, "John Simmons / outlaw programmer", "http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/16646/Reliable-Floating-Point-Equality-Comparison")]
public sealed class AlmostEqualComparer : IComparer<float>, IComparer<double>, IEqualityComparer<float>, IEqualityComparer<double>		
{
   // ...
}

in my code base, and use them quite often. And I know they are not the only thing I've learnt from CP, by far.

"I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle

#realJSOP28-Nov-17 8:47

#realJSOP

28-Nov-17 8:47

Wow. That one wasn't even well-received.

Maybe I'll re-evaluate it and write a new version of the article for C#.

Smile | :)

modified 28-Nov-17 14:57pm.

R. Giskard Reventlov28-Nov-17 12:05

R. Giskard Reventlov

28-Nov-17 12:05

15 years and 3 months and I lurked for quite a while before that. It's gone way to quickly but better than the alternative. Smile | :)

dandy7228-Nov-17 16:39

dandy72

28-Nov-17 16:39

Had to look myself up after reading this.

Holy crap, I've been here for over 16 years.

The only account I have that might be older (and still used all the time) is probably my personal Hotmail account.