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Lopatir wrote: dare anyone suggest your opinion is crap
You're not supposed to tell someone that their opinion is "crap" because that's rude, just as he said. There are any number of more positive ways you could have approached your point. As he said, you can post your own list and likely no one would have called it crap.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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No but if you don;t like my list, create your own and don't get personal, which you did. You offer some advice which you'd be good to take for yourself.
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Oh thank God for clearing that up. I thought this list was the definitive, overriding, final say, no one can argue with it, if you disagree you're a moron, don't even bother to watch it if it isn't on this list, be all and end all list.
Good thing we dodged that. 
It certainly is a sign of good taste and exceptional upbringing to attack someone else personally for revealing their 'Best of' list.
(And yes - in case anyone is wondering - I am in a bit of a bad mood today!  )
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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Lopatir wrote: And that's my point too, this list is your opinion, it's not "the best."
Apparently you are unclear on exactly what "best" means in general and most definitely do not understand in the context of this.
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Lopatir wrote: Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more
My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section. So differentiating is going to be a bit of a problem unless you provide an exact definition.
Not to mention that I suspect the vast majority of "science fiction" movies are in fact fantasy in that they are seldom realistic even a little bit as to the science and make vast leaps to tell the story.
Lopatir wrote: NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.
But it is in fact a list. Of which without your list, one can certainly not compare to validate your claim.
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The subgenre many "science fiction" movies fall into is Space Opera.
quote from the wiki article:
>...colorful, dramatic, large-scale science fiction adventure, competently and sometimes beautifully written, usually focused on a sympathetic, heroic central character and plot action, and usually set in the relatively distant future, and in space or on other worlds, characteristically optimistic in tone. It often deals with war, piracy, military virtues, and very large-scale action, large stakes.
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jschell wrote: My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section.
Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"?
Or that they don't have separate sections for "sci-fi" and "fantasy"?
I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"?
Sorry my response was poorly worded.
They have a section that is labeled either just "Science Fiction" or "Science Fiction and Fantasy".
So they do not try to differentiate between the two.
Richard Deeming wrote:
I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels
Not sure if I agree with the assertion that it is "smaller'. Certainly a lot bigger than when I first started buying books. That is supported by some numbers that Gardner Dozois presented in the forward to the The Years Best Science Fiction series a number of years ago which did a comparison between total books of all types in the 70s (72?) with the number just is Science Fiction and Fantasy for the year he did the comparison.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Idiocracy
Idiocracy, sci-fi?
I thought that was a documentary.
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Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: 5th Element
Never get tired of watching it.
R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Escape from New York
Love it...
R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: SpaceBalls
Comic genius
R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
Scared the crap out of my brother when the body fell; I was expecting something based on the music and grabbed him when it happened
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Escape from New York. Great film even if Donald Pleasance completely hammed it up. If it hadn't been for his perfomance, the film would have been even better.
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Its just so... either you like it or you don't; not a lot of middle ground.
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Tremors didn't make the cut?
What kind of malarkey is this? 
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Anything with Kevin Bacon is automatically included on any list, by default.
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Right. Have your judges watch Gravity and Edge of Tomorrow, and then tell me that they aren't on the list because they aren't very good movies.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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And surely Logan's Run deserves at least an honorable mention.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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No, I like them both but not enough to put them on the list. Feel free to add them to your own list of greats. 
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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TNCaver wrote: Have your judges watch Gravity
A good movie but rather dull science fiction movie.
TNCaver wrote: and Edge of Tomorrow,
Can't say that this is really great. I liked it but I liked the first Transformers as well. Doesn't mean I really want to watch it again though. I needed to look it up just to remember what it was.
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There are an extremely few movies I care to see more than once. EoT is one of them.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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I don't see Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.
Does that mean that it is not so good ? 
... or probably it's more fantasy than SF.
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It's rubbish.
And Star Wars is fantasy/adventure.
There is only one Star Wars and it was released in 1977.
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Most of those aren't anything I'd ever watch.
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Any list of sci-fi movies missing Buckaroo Banzai is worthless.
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