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Steve Naidamast wrote:
However, ORMs tend to be on the "heavy" side in terms of tiers, making them somewhat inefficient.
I'd gladly sacrifice some milliseconds for the days I save in development Wink | ;)
Steve Naidamast wrote:
using any ORM forces one to learn the idiosyncrasies of that ORM as well as the interface language. In EF's case, that would be LINQ, though you can also use EF-SQL. The result is that you become fluent in a single ORM instead of the more general language of standard SQL.
I don't think you can be fluent in LINQ-to-Entities without being fluent in "bare" SQL as well.
Not being fluent in LINQ creates horrible SQL, which makes it a horrible LINQ query (no matter how "well" your LINQ query is written) Smile | :)
Learning how .NET translates LINQ to SQL took some time, but I thought I managed pretty well.
Until I found out EF Core doesn't support set operators that is Sigh | :sigh:
I know what you mean though, and it's a shame that many developers are writing LINQ without knowing SQL.

I do keep my entities in its own data layer and only return "real" POCO's to my other layers though.
In theory, I could create a project, implement some interfaces, write a bunch of ADO.NET, and replace my entire EF with ADO.NET in a single project.

So you and I more or less do the same, but a little different Smile | :)

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