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Apparently, it's quite popular in Python:
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I'm going to have to use this:This is an impressive amount of effort into constructing a footgun 
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Saw some code once where someone had used varying numbers of underscores to keep column name lengths uniform.
He also didn't seem to be aware that SQL has a rather nifty DATETIME construct, so the code looked something like:
SELECT whatever
FROM Somebloodyawfullynamedtable
WHERE Monday____morning = 1 OR Tuesday__morning = 1 OR Wednesday_morning = 1 OR Thursday__morning = 1 ...
There were something close to 1,000 lines in a sproc which basically seemed to be there just to establish what day of the week an appointment was on and whether it was in the morning or afternoon!!!
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I had trial version on VS 2017. Now that evaluation is expired, I went to uninstall it. It tells me to update the installer before I uninstall. Why? Why? WHY?
Something which installed it cannot uninstall it anymore?
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It's silly, but that is how the installer / updater works.
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011111100010 wrote: It's easy to get married but hard to get divorced.
So by analogy, I have to upgrade Mistress before I can uninstall Wife?
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Marc Clifton wrote: So by analogy, I have to upgrade Mistress before I can uninstall Wife?
That often does the trick. (So I've heard)
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That has to be the BEST analogy I have ever read!
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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I think that generally speaking, uninstallation of Wife requires a significant downgrade to Bank Account.
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Except that Mistress is a rather funny application, whereas Wife is a full operating system. In place upgrades are barely likely to succeed.
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yes you will have to update the installer,
it'll the realise that your vs is itself not the latest, you'll have to update that too,
then you may uninstall it.
Are you sure?
now behave! that is the way ms made it.
there are no choices, ms has decided everything for you - in your best interest of course.
(Be reassured: the uninstaller will leave a sh*t load of crap behind, once again because ms have decided that is the best thing to do, because .... it's what you want must have.)
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One word: RevoUninstaller[^]
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not so much for VS, installing VS often includes other components such as various SQL Server modules, help readers, .net runtimes etc that are automatically [sub] installed in their own right. (i.e. they have their own completely separate installation packages, look like (because they are) completely separate items in the installed programs list)
the vs uninstaller doesn't always uninstall those even though they might never be used again, and as separately install-ered items revo wont (cant, and in fact shouldn't) recognize them as needing to be removed either.
so no, revo and it's kin are no solution either; there will be baggage.
I never bother with those "make windows better" crapware-for-weenies things, they either still only do half the job, or in some cases even break things they shouldn't touch... in complex business environments I've actually seen that revo shite fark things up twice, it was no fun at all.
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the installer is a bootstrap over the installer.
I'd rather be phishing!
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The problem is probably caused by the fact that you applied a VS2017 update and the installer can't uninstall it because the versions are different. IMHO, that's piss poor planning on microsoft's part. It's almost like we're still living in the early 90's.
Beyond that, I though VS2017 had a community edition that is free. Why would it "expire"?
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I am certain that no updates were applied (at least by me). I wanted to see what architecture related options are available and also to check out intellitest. Both are not available with community.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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btw, a trial version?
why not the community version???
can try it forever... or at least till they properly break it.
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Enterprise edition is needed for intellitest and few architecture related features.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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The installer is simply another application whose job is to put a second application in place on a system for you to use. Installers routinely include uninstallation logic, given that the two processes are complimentary. Between the time you installed the trial version of VS2017 and now, someone found a bug in the uninstall logic and Microsoft had to fix it.
Frankly, I think the fact that they were smart enough to allow for this case isn't a bad idea. Visual Studio 2017 is a complex application, with lots and lots of installation options. It doesn't surprise me that the uninstall is complicated.
They could have simply published instructions for you to fix the problem by hand, if the uninstall problem is even addressable that way.
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This is why I stick to VMs. Especially to run some trialware. You can be absolutely certain no component is left behind.
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Samsung T5 250GB $123, T5 500GB $125 (portable SSD)
why oh why do they make it so difficult?!?
Should I pay the extra $4 (for 2 pieces?)
C'mon guys, it's Friday, please go easy.
ngggggg, i dunnnnoooo.... <click> wannamissout
yeah I know could get a truckload of spinners for the same dollar,
but nah, dis be a spin free zone! ... with magnets and metal coasters.
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I'd prefer to go with the 2TB one, but Amazon.com has them at $585, while the 250GB is $105, and the 500GB at $123
Lotta money though.
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'd prefer to go with the 2TB one, but Amazon.com has them at $585, while the 250TBGB is $105, and the 500TBGB at $123
FTFY.
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