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Sander Rossel28-Oct-18 0:55
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If you live two time zones east of me, and I talk to you over the phone and tell you "I'm going to take this three hour exam in ten minutes, at 13:00 - I'll call you after that to tell how it went", and you say: "That is 15:00 over here, and I'll leave the office at 17:00, so call me at my home phone number" ... that is not weird at all. (Except that noone has fixed line telephone any more Smile | :) )

If I go on vacation to your place, I will label absolute points in time by your labels. If I refer to that phone call, I will accept as the reason why I had to call you at home that you go home at 17:00, one hour before my exam was completed. That is the labeling of absolute time that is appropriate when I am at your place. I will not insist that you leave work at 15:00.

I honestly think that China ("which we call Red China") did the right thing when they abandoned time zones, making the entire nation a single zone. 13:00 is 13:00 everywhere. Even with time zones, some people go to work at 07:00, others at 09:00. The easternmost points in Norway have surise two hours before the westernmost points; yet we are one time zone, and handle it well. Making USA, say, a single time zone would widen the limits quite a bit: Some people (i.e. those on the east coast) would go to work at 05:00, others (those at the west coast) would not go until 10:00, five hours later ... but that's how it is today! I don't see the need for having identical going-to-work-time-labels across the nation, when time times are really different.

As long as people insist on time zones, we will have to accept that as different times have identical time labels, identical times have different labels. You cant expect to have identical time labels across time zones both for a fixed time (like the exam start) and for a variable time (like start of working hours).

People are too much fixated at those time labels. Every year, milk farmers complain at this time of the year about disturbing the daily rytm of the cows. I never understood that: Last Saturday, they were milked at 06:00, on Sunday they were milkes at 05:00, but why would they notice? The cows don't have watches! Farmers create problems because they insisted on sleeping an hour more that night. If they rather had a normal nigth's sleep, getting up at the normal time, it would'd matter what their watch said.

So let us start a worldwide movement to abandon time zones and use UTC everywhere!
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