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To me, this is only half so funny.

I have house automation @ home, so have been following the devices and technologies for over 3 years now. Most of the (wireless) devices are directly coming from China, like smart lightbulbs, smart plugs, IP cameras, etc... What network-literate people observed and documented in tutorials and forums is that about ALL of these devices send data on the Internet when they can. For some of them, it is because a part of their "being smart" actually means interacting with the Cloud, but for others, like the plugs, this was rather unexpected, and is no justified. Since these devices are almost plug&play and meant to be used by everybody, I do not think that IT-illiterate people will bother to close ports on their home router (?) and check that the devices are not sending data on some servers across the planet. This data trafic is probably going to explode with all Alexas and other Google home devices.

In my installation, I have smart cameras from China, but they are wired so that I do not rely on WiFi and they have no way to communicate directly with Internet. I retrieve the pictures and the streams via a local ftp server, from where I can check them from a secured connection that I set up, but that was no plug&play out of the box...

The main leak is that I still have a Wifi access @ home, so anybody hacking the WiFi password and the home automation password, or hacking one of the family's phones, is able to enter the house, provided that he knows where to look. Unsure | :~

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