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Rage wrote:
a part of their "being smart" actually means interacting with the Cloud, but for others, like the plugs, this was rather unexpected, and is no justified


As far as I'm concerned, the problem with all of these co-called IoT devices phoning home for their smarts is the phoning home part.

There's no way any such device should not be able to talk to some service running on one of your own computers rather than phoning back home. If data traffic was all limited to within your own LAN...I'd be all in. But the instant a device needs to talk to the outside world however...then it's a non-starter. Obviously this is not a solution for everybody, but if the option is not available (the end user manages the service vs the manufacturer across the internet), then I'm simply not interested.
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