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sickfile wrote:
java will collapse under its own weight


So will cobol. But both are still here after I die.

So I am not to worried about my skill sets aging out.

sickfile wrote:
you have built a "cargo cult" out of your object oriented premise and banned every other creative thought


Sigh...I didn't "build" anything.

Market share "builds" things. That is why OO won and Case tools did not, as one of only many examples.

There are literally hundreds of programming languages implemented every year and tens of them that get promoted, with no more than an handful managing to become more a blip on the landscape. Because the market decides that.

In contrast for almost every language (hundreds) proponents and consultants will start promoting each because, for them, their vested interest supersedes everything else. That however doesn't mean they are better.

Further actually demonstrating that a given technology is even a little bit better much less market changing at inception is impossible. Economics make it impossible.

sickfile wrote:
soon you will find yourself in a dead end


LOL. Sorry, but you seriously do not know what you are talking about. Not about my individual skills and even less about how the market works.

sickfile wrote:
like in the biological evolution, in IT older languages don't suffer this specialization. C and Pascal are not equally well suited for OOP or FP vs newer languages, but they are not hindering the respective philosophies.


Another big sigh...I can only suppose you have no idea what you are talking about. Or perhaps that was very badly phrased.

The only "Pascal" that currently ranks in market significance is OO.
And C has been adding OO features for years.

sickfile wrote:
Pascal fanatics tried to forbid GOTO, but many experienced C programers showed that GOTO has it's purposes. they have shown that GOTO intrinsically is not the problem.


There are features is every language that are problematic. However that has nothing to do with anything that I said.

sickfile wrote:
you have input data, you transform it and you have output data.


Which has nothing to do with delivering products to the market and keeping them running.
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