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I haven't actually checked out this combination. It depends on the virtualization. Usually, VMs do not have their own drivers for every single hardware device that is out there; it makes use of the host's device drivers, at a low level. Different VM technologies vary in how low level - drivers are structured in multiple layers. The term "driver" is a most ambiguous term.

If the VM software goes all the way down to the drivers for every piece of hardware, without any support from the host system, it really isn't a virtualization layer but an OS core that provides multiple isolated API environments, possibly of different types.

Where does the "OS provided device driver" end and the "host OS" begin? That is also a very ambiguous issue. The VM may use the host OS to provide control over the disk as cylinders and tracks, but manage the sector format itself. Or the OS may provide the disk as an unstructured stream of bytes. Or one of several in-between levels.

As the floppy disk format really describes the disk at the cylinder/track level, its interpretation belongs in the very low driver layers. I woudn't expect a VM anno 2019 to implement drivers for the Shugart 34-pin floppy interface - legacy demands on Windows are probably still strong enough that they keep it in there. What you suggest is that the VM implements the physical layer driver (if it is prepared to do that for arbitrary USB floppy formats, I would expect it to be available for a Shugart interface as well), but not take the responsibility for track and sectors. Or at least allow me to take control over stepper motor and disk rotation ... in a "virtual machine". To me, that isn't much of a virtualization Smile | :)

You may be right, but I doubt it. I would think that the majority of VM technologies that can handle floppies make use of host provided drivers at the bottom layers. If those drivers can't handle the sectors and tracks because there is no information available, I would expect the VM to be lost as well.
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